What does god think about...

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Milk_Man, Aug 9, 2008.

  1. Milk_Man

    Milk_Man Member

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    My occasional use of cannabis. I don’t know if this is a sin or not, in modern society says it is a sin (well illegal). So if I am sinning and knowing it’s a sin (because I know its illegal) then what are my chances of entering the kingdom of god? Of cause when I die I have the chance to ask for forgiveness but I think it’s a sin on earth and I should be changing my ways now and asking for forgiveness?

    I have asked god and with no obvious answer other than I have no urge to stop, maybe this is god telling me that it’s ok to do. After all god put me along with many other herbs plants and fruits to learn how to benefit from them which I have. But as we know from the story of Adam and eve he forbids us from certain fruits, plants / herbs. So are we forbidden to smoke weed.

    On top of this Jesus taught us that we must treat our body like a temple and I'm sure cannabis does a lot of damage to my lungs so that would tell me that it’s wrong to smoke? But may be its ok to use the oils (like Jesus was supposed to have done).


    Somebody help me :S
     
  2. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    so ... go on in . please enter the kingdom of god now . you may or may not get sick from moderately smoking herb - probably not . stress is deadlier . oops , it's illegal for me to say this .
     
  3. Nikalaus

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    ... Hey I read somewhere that Shroom usage is tied into the "tree of life" writings in the Kabbalah ... like not metaphorically, literally.

    Trust me your not going to burn in hell for smoking weed chum. It's what you do while your stoned. Some of the greatest artists on earth have left us are most valuable works under the influence.

    I for one am drug free, but I remain steadfast in my there has to be a ... PURPOSE for the USE idea. Otherwise that's where the addiction thing comes into play. And that is where society and i think the big guy has a problem. Caues your certainly no longer living a full life, if your a slave to the high.
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Typical human thing to project our own qualities and faculties onto God, such as thinking. I'm sure God has no need at all for such proceses.

    As for dope, you can always eat it if you're worried about damaging the lungs.
     
  5. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Don't judge one by what goes in his mouth, but by what comes out.

    A quote from Jesus I believe.
     
  6. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    god is everything and nothing.
    every thought
    and no thought.

    OK?
     
  7. yumyum2k5

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    Jesus said 'its not what goes in the body but what comes out' or something along those lines.

    Herb is actually in the bible many times. That is why Rasta smoke it and its ok to God.

    The way i see it, Herb was created by God, Alcohol was created by man. God is perfect, man is imperfect. Herb is healing, Alcohol is destruction.

    If you take away man from the planet, herb will still grow, alcohol wont continue to be created. Dont worry about it. Just dont abuse it, because when you abuse it, it'll abuse you back.
     
  8. Geechee

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    Actually they're both organic. Early humans got alcohol from fruits. They will both continue to occur without humans here.

    Anyway, asking what a man in a book thinks about smokin trees is like asking what size pants my imaginary friend wears.
     
  9. liquidlight

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    The main problem with all these kind of things is attatchment and dependancy ... do you NEED them?
    Do what you wan't but don't do it to extremes. Sometimes we realise we are dependant or addicted to a substance, so we need a break from it to find ourselves again.
    - But i've been asking this question recently; What exactly did Jesus mean when he said to treat your body like a temple? - How does one treat a living temple?


    Yeah i remember watching a nature program once. The amarula fruit were rotting on the ground under the tree and several different animals seemed to enjoy eating them and getting drunk. Didn't notice them smoking any weed though... that seems to be peculiar to humans for some reason.
     
  10. Geechee

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    Because burning that sweet sweet ganja invoves harvesting the plant, drying it, constructing an apparatus to smoke it in, and creation of a flame to ignite it.

    Not just eating a rotten fruit off of the ground. It (weed) was a deeper trial and error type of process.

    ...Anyway, you're right, we may not NEED them. But that doesn't nullify any reason for using them. Do we NEED "God" ? Do we NEED religion ? Do we NEED clothes ? Do we NEED money ?
     
  11. liquidlight

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    In truth we need none of those things because we ARE god, and deathless.
     
  12. Geechee

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    Yes Yes fucking Yes. I though I was the only one who saw "it" in such a manner. We're nothing more than a microcosm of the universe around us. If this universe were some chemical, we, on an "individual" level, would all be molecules proportionatly representing the whole.

    "God' has a different connotation to me. Since "God" is preceived as the creator and the impetus of all things in existence (at least in this universe), I view "him" in a matter of physics and interconnection to the intangible world.

    To me, "God" is not the heat and light from the sun or the hydrogen and helium contained there, but the actual fusion reaction that produces the light and heat. That's my interpretation of "God". Since, in a literal sense, that is what allows us (Earthlings) to exist. To me, "God" is teh gravity that caused those first 2 hydrogen molecules to bond with that lone oxygen molecule.

    "God" is the signal that runs along my neurons and tells my cells to split and reproduce. Photosynthesis, photoelectric effect. general relativity...evaporation........all the things we can't see but we know are there and effect is in more ways than can be imagined.

    That's my version of a "God".
     
  13. DonGenaro

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    God does demand exclusive devotion and worship..and worship with a cloudy mind is not what he wants...no worries..this is one of the things I struggle with mostly..cause I do love smoking weed..a lot.
     
  14. liquidlight

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    I don't think god 'demands' anything... but the truth speaks.
     
  16. IMjustfishin

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    what does he think about alcohol? what about beer? what about chicken wings? what about hooters! what about anal/oral sex? it would suck to turn down any of those :eek:!! oh well i guess thats the down side of blindly devoting your life to a story book.
     
  17. liquidlight

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    It's not about turning anything down, it's about realising you don't NEED any of this stuff.... because to think you NEED any of this stuff is to buy into an illusion and consequently you'll forget who/what you really are.
     
  18. LanSLIde

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    I was chatting with the big man last week about this, and he said it wasn't a sin at all, he put it here.

    Damn true; what's a sin is not the consumption of such things, but a reliance on them, or their use as a substitute for real life. To poison your life (mind or body) is sinful

    Offff course if you were honestly concerned about your odds of "getting into the kingdom of heaven", wouldn't you devote your entire life to religion, rather than half-assing it? If you only half believe, are you only half-subject to rewards or punishments pertaining to the beliefs?
    *edit: I'm not seriously trying to bust your balls, I'm just poking a finger at literal religion
     
  19. liquidlight

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    And again, it's not about 'getting into the kingdom of heaven' but rather, 'being who you really are', being true to yourself.
     
  20. BlackBillBlake

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    The two may well be synonymous:D
     

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