I think that last night edwards came off as a braying asshole. he used entirely too many hand gestures (and if you think that this is not important you have never taken a speech class), he rambled, he didn't call cheney on alot of the hypocracy he was spewing, he interrupted cheney and all in all he acted very juvenille. the part that sticks out most in my mind was when the moderator got confused on whose question it was and said, well, i asked edwards the question about isreal but we didn't talk about isreal much, at which point edwards leaned across and yelled i talked about isreal, cheney didn't. Kerry/Cheny '04, leave the idiots behind.
Good to know I'm not the only one that noticed how bad edwards behavior was. Like I said in another thread, Cheney could have been silent the whole time, Edward's idiocy was quite self evident, and did a good enough job of making me not want to vote for him by himself.
Apparently I saw a different debate! Edwards mopped up the floor with Cheney. You guys are in such deep denial.
I think it was pretty damn even. If you have to call a winner, in my opinion, it would be Edwards. And before Karl Hungus jumps all over me....YES, I have a bais against Cheney, I hate the entire administration. But I am not a democrat either, so I am not going to automatically give them the win in my mind. It's my opinion that Cheney repeated himself, used bad factual information, did a better job memorizing Edwards 30 year history than preparing himself for a debate on the issues, and gave ultimately lost on the rebuttals. No debater should be at a loss for information. They should always use their rebuttals, it is always important to get the last word when it is being given to you. Edwards sounded like a more inexperienced Kerry, but I didn't see any idiocy coming from either debaters.
I fail to see how I'm in denial, I don't like either of them, nor do I have any reason to want to believe one of them did better than the other. I hate to be insulting, but if people thought edwards did anything even resembling a good job, poked holes in cheney's arguements, or whatever, then people are far dumber than I would like to believe. Answer this honestly, do you realy seriously think edwards did a good job, or are you just saying he did simply because you hate bush/cheney?
the context of the original example is flawed. one reason being that edwards didn't yell when he made the comment (aka rebuttal) back that, "i did talk about.... cheney didnt...". he was just stating his opinion and it was ONE statement. (and btw, edwards was right if you listened carefully). cheney, however, just kept repeating the same drival over and over (just like bush only a better speaker, of course. who do you think the bitch is in THIS relationship!?!?!?) and in all actuality, how can anyone call edwards out for being an asshole in the debate when cheney for four times as bad...memorizing fucking statistics about senator meetings, who ate cheese and everything else.. which were not even true. stating it all in a cold, demeaning manner. (i would be scared if cheney came into my room in the dark....) real scared (can someone start the music)
I agree with you of course, and just ignore Karl he's like an annoying fly, he will eventually grow tired and leave if he isn't banned first for being a troll
i think it was even, and both of them avoided answering the questions mechanically. i didn't find this debate very interesting or informative. i'm ready for the one on friday
i was going to answer that, but I decided feeding the trolls is not a good idea. You don't ask questions for answers, you ask them to spite people. And if you are asking that question seriously, you have no reason to be in a politics fourm. i know republicans who are against bush too. it's not all democrats.
Yes, Cheney is such an asshole for knowing relevant information... Cheney just kept repeating the same drivel over and over? Did you actualy watch the debate?
Um, yes, I watched the whole debate. Did you? Cheney was spouting out lies over and over again during the debate. the same lies that dudya repeats over and over again to the stupid sheep that actually fall for it.
you are getting on my last nerve. and as for the lies... how about the weapons of mass destruction that cheney was STILL claiming that iraq had, which has been proven false?
All I have to say is that I witnessed two morons vying for the position of being one heartbeat away from being president. I'll call it a draw -I thought the whole thing sucked though, the questions, the answers and the moderator. The first prez debate was alright, not great, but this vp debate came off as a bad game show. The only thing good I thought came out of it is that Edwards at least had the balls to call out the current administration as the liars that they are in a much more blunt fashion than Kerry had the other night. Other than that, Edwards looked and sounded like a moron and Cheney again convinced me that he is a fat version of Mr. Burns.
I can think one one proven lie that Cheney made, and scored an alleged point with. he claimed he had never met Edwards prior to stepping on the stage that night, when there is videotaped footage of the two sitting next to each other at some political gathering of sorts. And Hungus, what does showing your tits have to do with this at all? Even Bush supporters would admit that Cheney was lying.
Yes, seamonster is right.... and he had met Edwards on MORE then one occasion before the debate. Nice try though Dick....
because he showed a breadth of knowledge that eluded edwards and put edwards on the defensive and quite honestly, made him look like a jackass on numerous occassions. Regardless of the lie of cheney about not meeting him before, the point he made is valid and cannot be disregarded. Edwards was absent from over 70% of the meetings/votes.