I'm sure you've all heard about the fighting between Russia and Georgia over Ossetia. In my opinion this is merely aggression by Moscow. Thoughts? I'm also a little concerned about the lack of coverage this is receiving from American news agencies. It's disgusting to see more time given to the trivial affair of John Edwards when there is an escalating crisis overseas potentially leading to a major war. They're on completely different levels, and the Edwards story is just political character assassination. Just another example of why I can't take cable news seriously.
Yes, you are very much correct about the lack of coverage on the televised media. There is a good reason for this, and I am sure we are going to be hearing much, much more about this in the coming days and weeks. This is BIG! In the meantime, here are some IMPORTANT articles everyone needs to look at, showing evidence of U.S. military presence in Georgia. Georgia, US start military exercises despite tensions with Russia CNews July 15, 2008 TBILISI, Georgia (AP) — Georgian and U.S. troops started a joint military exercise Tuesday amid growing tensions between the ex-Soviet republic and Russia, a Georgian defense ministry official said. Read article Russian military gangs ready to invade Georgia. U.S. sends thousand marines in response Kavkaz-Center July 10, 2008 Gangs of the Russian invaders from the so-called North Caucasus Military District are ready “to provide assistance to the Russian troops in case the situation gets more aggravated in the conflict zones in Abkhazia and South Ossetia”, as gang leader of Russian North Caucasus Military District, Sergei Makarov, said. Read article US army exercises begin in Georgia Aljazeerea July 15, 2008 The United States and Russia are holding military exercises on either side of the Caucasus mountains amid increasing tensions over the fate of two separatist regions in ex-Soviet Georgia. Read article US runs military exercise around Georgia conflict Now Public July 17, 2008 The conflict in the Caucasus country of Georgia is growing to alarming levels. The country is fighting with a break-away region in teh North called Abkhazia, where an ethnic minority lives. The area is currently de-facto independent, and Russia is backing the area’s claims to independence, although it’s not really clear why. The US secretary of state Condoleeza Rice visited the country earlier this month, and now the US military is running exercises around the conflict. Could the US military be planning to get involved in this Caucasus conflict? The US would be supporting its pro-West ally Georgia, while Russia would be supporting the rebels. Not exactly a good idea geopolitically! Read article US military advisers arrive in Georgia BBC February 27, 2002 Five US military advisers have arrived in the former Soviet republic of Georgia, in what is being seen as a possible new front in the US war on terror. Read article Green Berets now in Georgia: U.S. Special Forces are training Georgian soldiers to fight radical Muslims. The mission could benefit other U.S. interests as well VFW Magazine, June-July, 2002 by Tim Dyhouse President George Bush called the May deployment of some 150 U.S. advisers to Georgia the latest front in the U.S. war on terrorism. Much like their fellow soldiers in the Philippines, U.S. Special Forces are teaching Georgian soldiers how to better fight Muslim extremists within their country. Also, as in the Philippines, U.S. troops are not permitted to engage in combat. Read article Special Forces to Train Georgian Military NewsMax.com Wires Thursday, Feb. 28, 2002 WASHINGTON – Concerned that al-Qaeda terrorists have moved into the former Soviet republic of Georgia, the U.S. military is expected to send as many as 200 special operations soldiers there for up to a year to train the Georgian military in counterterror and counterinsurgency tactics. Read article From Wikipedia The Georgia Train and Equip Program (GTEP) training was conducted using U.S. Special Operations Forces and U. S. Marine Corps forces from May 2002 to May 2004. During this time approximately 2,600 Georgian soldiers, including a headquarters staff element and 5 tactical units, received training. Another assistance program, the Georgia Security and Stability Operations Program (Georgia SSOP), was launched in January 2005 as a continuation of the (GTEP) of 2002-2004. Georgian contingents were involved in the Kosovo Force and continue to participate in the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Russia angry at US war plan for Georgia Security officials from the post-Soviet state of Georgia are expected for talks in London and Washington amid growing signs that American and British forces are gearing up to attack suspected Islamist terrorists holed up in the north of the country, near the Russian border. Read article US troops deployed to former Soviet republic of Georgia Two US Air Force planes brought forty American military personnel to Tbilisi, capital of the former Soviet republic of Georgia, on February 21, marking the first deployment of US combat forces in the Caucasus region, adjacent to one of the world’s largest oilfields. Read article US Military Pushes into Ex-Soviet Georgia Under Guise of Fighting Terror The article, “The Pentagon is Not Rushing to the Transcaucasus, It’s Already There,” by Vasily Streltsov, reprinted from Nezavisimaya Gazeta, supports our analysis of the strategic reasons for the so-called war on terror. Read article The Pentagon is Not Rushing to the Transcaucasus, It’s Already There Vasily Streltsov Counterpunch February 26, 2002 For a third day high-placed Russian and Georgian politicians have been pronouncing loaded phrases, in the deparaging sense, which are not acceptable in diplomatic protocal. In reply to the suggestion of Igor Ivanov that bin Laden might be hiding in the Pankisi gorge, a more than insulting answer followed from President Eduard Shevardnadze, with the proposal to seek out the terrorist in Ivanov’s mother’s house. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov and Georgian Security Minister Valery Khaburdzania quickly jumped into the frey, while the barbs of the Georgian side continued to carry a very offensive tone. Read article
Well duh But whats the real status of this stiuation?.. Are we actually gonna fight for this Georgia country?
You people think this is funny?... I think it's sad that in the XXI century, era of progress, there are still these primitive ways of solving world's problems such as wars who are mostly used as an excuse for pathetic ball-less men to do something extraordinary with their lives because they can't find any other way...
Fighting terrorists, eh? What the heck is going on here... I hear Edwards had an affair then this comes out of nowhere.
rat you left out the one where israeli "military advisers" are supposedly embedded with the georgian troops that assaulted south ossetia.. theres a link to it in the thread i started in this forum on this a few hours before this one was started.. seems like this is all over oil once again.. isreal wants a pipeline from there. the offered to let russia in and russia brushed them off so they are coaxing georgia into this in hopes that if georgia gets control of south ossetia that they can have there pipeline... i guess no one responded in my thread because im just a alarmist?? id say its something to be alarmed about..
The situation in Georgia demonstrates the folly of extending NATO into traditional Russian spheres of influence. Should we fight a war with Russia over Georgia? I don't think so. I think we have too much trouble with the two wars we are already fighting.
Yes, "us people" think it was funny what I posted. *joins the Peace Co[SIZE=-1]rps to help fight fo[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]r Geo[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]rgia (the count[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]ry)[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]*[/SIZE]
My parents once told me when I was really young, that if the US and Russia are at war, it's gonna be WW3. I think it could be possible, that Russia is using the momentum to enlarge it's territories and maybe make it to the mediterranean sea, like it has been trying for centuries. But when the UN and the US intervene, it's major shit.
Why does the US care about Georgia? Simple, a big oil pipeline goes through there that lets Western Europe get oil without passing through Russia or Iran. And I'm no fan of Russia, but Georgia did start the war. And they've devastated South Ossetia's capital. There's almost 2000 dead!
Why are people comparing this to the John Edward's coverage? Of course the John Edwards thing is going to get more coverage than what's happening between Russia and Georgia. He did have this affair while running for president.
Holy Shit. I am loving this hard. http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2008/08/08/intv.saakashvili.cnn Observe as Afghanistan, Prague, Budapest, Finland and Ronald Reagan are all invoked for the FULL WIN
Good for You, glad you shared that with us. Exactly which part of the (conflict/war) are you "loving this hard"?
Good work getting all of that together Pressed Rat. Interesting move, that they chose to invade/respond on the opening day of the Olympics. And if Russia gains control of the territory, they'll have the economy of every country in Western Europe in their hands, if that is true.
