Tool

*does dance to stinkfist*

 

Tool is boring and pretentious as fuck, and this is coming from someone who listens to tr00 necro grim black metal from the deep forests of the snowy desolate mountains.

 

It is possible to grow out of Tool. Four pretty accessible albums doesn't leave much purpose for re-listening. I can understand the fandom surrounding the band - they're good musicians with a good vocalist - but lately (especially on 10,000 Days) I've found the trancendental imagery a little... I dunno... gimmicky? I think they did their best work way back with Aenema.

 

So your a loser who listens to the absolute worst music ever made? You are worse then a Green Day fan.

I have to disagree with Tool being "gimmicky" but I do see how you can think that, I do have to admit that hearing the same albums over and over gets lame but every time they release an album we all cheer.

 

Listening to an entire genre of competent musicians who have to seriously work to get their music heard and use their music to promote ideologies comprising of anything from nationalism to political rebellion to Satanism to nature is better than worshipping a single band who turns thousands of their fans into pretentious dicks by getting people to believe that their boring ass music is intelligent.

 

First of all, I don't worship a single band... This thread just happens to be about one band. Boring? Don't you mean melodic and tranquil? Don't act like gore metal shit from Holland can beat actual music, man.

 

I wasn't specifically stating you, but the general Tool fanboy population. And it seems that you don't know the difference between the types of genres of metal. In no way is gore metal the same as black metal. I can name you lists of bands of all metal genres who are more melodic and even tranquil as Tool. Just with abrasive vocals, but I can also name you bands without those vocals. All which are 10 times more entertaining than Tool will ever be, but I guess that point comes down to personal opinion.

 

If Tool came out with more albums they would be more entertaining, every album is great but they get old.

 

My main beef with Tool is that from what I've listened to, every song has the same few formulas and riffing style. Thats probably why I can't stand them. The songs progress so slow too. I mean, a lot of the music I listen to progresses slow too, but the riffs keep me interested. Only a few of Tool's songs have riffs that keep me interested, but I forgot the name of them.

 

whatever dude.


guys you should take a break from listening to them...ima huge fan but i only listen to them like a few times a month. they never got boring that way.

 

I wasn't talking about time signatures or even drumming patterns, and I'm also not denying that they are good musicians. I was talking about how from what I've heard, it sounds like they are using the same pattern of song writing I guess I can say. Kind of like Opeth or Dragonforce does if you understand it from that analogy. And there are plenty of guitarists that write different styled riffs, so it doesn't really matter that theres only one guitarist.

I listen to plenty of different genres to have a good grasp on what good music to me is. There can be good music from any genre, even rap and techno. The basic definition of good music is music that keeps you entertained and can keep you entertained and energetic about their music for months and years to come. Tool doesn't fit those qualities due to reasons I already described.

I enjoy post rock and jam bands too, but you don't see me flaunting around how musically educated I am. I have some degree of musical education, but I just listen to music and occasionally play it. Music is what sounds good and connects with you.

And are you saying that to like Tool you have to be musically educated? From what I've experienced, most Tool fans are pretentious dickbags who say because they listen to Tool they are masters of music and judge every single band over musical capability. You just prove my beliefs more and more.

 

My assessments come from what I hear. I hear boring music. I can tell when a band is musically talented or not. The point is, does it really matter how good you can play your instruments if the music you play is boring as fuck? There are plenty of bands that are incredibly talented musicians yet play shitty music. It all comes down to song writing and personal preference.

And I can't decipher the difference between whats entertaining and energetic? For one I listen to very energetic music of all different types of genres. Thrash metal, punk, rap, ska, hardcore, progressive metal, death metal, the list goes on and on. I bet a Tool show would be pretty fun, as for most live music is very fun. Studio Tool can be energetic at times, but is definitely not entertaining to me. However, I'll admit that they do have some pretty good songs, such as Schism. Even though it is still good, it bores me after a while. The one thing that does bore me most though is Maynard's voice.

 

Squilla, This is a forum for free speech... not a tool fan site. You've gotta get over other people's opinions.

 

Nah, not when I look around and see idiots listening to madonna or megadeth. Its not fucking opinion, i'm tired of hearing that. ITS CALLED A FACTOID AMIGO!

 

toolarmy site looks cool to join too bad its 100 bones to join....(at least the membership that i want)

 

Haha, well, if you can't appreciate other bands, you should be mentally prepared to deal with the fact that some people don't like tool. Of course, you could be trying to defend the "tool" name in some sort of self appointed duty to your idols, as fan boy supreme.

All the same, arguing with someone over whether tool sucks or not is a pretty dry debate... infact, listening to tool is about the only thing less exciting. haha.

 

Tool's ok, but they got old pretty fast.

 

Yea, TOOL is one of the most inovative and brilliant band since Pink Floyd. Each album expressing a different emotion and when combined they map an evolutional chain from the dawn of man to the inevitible future. Their music is complex, uplifting, dark, and intrieging. Looking foward to more TOOL in the future. Guess it takes a certain level of inteligence for an individal to realize and appreciate such talent. !,,!

 

To be a person that can't appreciate Tool must suck... I for one believe its an almost spiritual thing.

 

Haha, yes! It has to be spiritual...each album talks about tripping a psychedelic drug at least once.
Opiate- The Gaping Lotus
Undertow- 4 Degress
AEnema- Third Eye
Lateralus- Lateralus
10,000 Days- I'm not too sure about 10,000 days. Either Rosetta Stoned or Right In Two.