Why is nobody talking about this??

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pressed_Rat, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. Son of Peace

    Son of Peace Member

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    Man I don't see any point in worrying. I mean we'll never know for sure how much the government has lied to us about or how much they've hidden that we still don't know of. But in the end it doesn't matter cause my life keeps goin'. If we go to war with Iran we're killing thousands of people unjustly, far as I'm concerned
     
  2. Son of Peace

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    But They Have Lied To Us....
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I disagree. I've seen very little to suggest Iran is provoking the US. Rather over and over again in the last three years I've seen the Bush administration and Israel implying that Iran is behind anything and everything that has happened to postpone their goals and agenda in the middle east, plus false hysteria about their motives for acquiring nuclear power.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iran.israel
     
  4. ishikabe

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    Uhm, I live in the United States and I have not been provoked by Iran.
     
  5. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I live in the UK and have not been worried about Iran either.
    This does not mean Iran has not been putting on their war paint.
    It just means I have not been paying enough attention to Iran...have you?
     
  6. Astrolog

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    6 superpowers' dicks are making stupid logic mistake talking with Iran about issue that cannot be resolved in the way they want. They are investing in military now in human race instead of developing energy and cosmic science.

    They should talk about sending observers to check if Iran do the 'right job' instead of this stupid talks about closing the nuclear power plant project.

    IT IS RIDICULOUS!! How those motherfuckers can be so stupid all the time?

    I'll tell you why ---> because MEA is in Austria!
     
  7. Son of Peace

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    Well I don't disagree about the waste of human life over in Iran, but the powe plant project should be shut down. Its time the US used cleaner means tomake energy.
     
  8. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Nuclear energy is one of the cleaner energy sources...:rolleyes:
     
  9. Astrolog

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    Iranians are not the same soldiers as the US army crazy youngers who want to earn some money and get lost. They are trained to hold arm from young child. They are good people, disciplined and learned well about ethics. Probably their army is much more educated than US, I do not mean technician knowledge here but culture and tradition.
    Beautiful Iran where you won't see any American tourist but a lot of Czech, Russian, Arabs, Turkish, Europeans, Asians... Take a look:
    http://kerman.wz.cz/jirka/jirka.htm


    http://iran.wz.cz/

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    ts not about getting US cleaner/ its about much more dangerous thing. Whey want invade this country in the future, so they are barking so whey will take this barking in the future as the proof and their right to attack.

    Intelligent suspecting that Iran is breaking the law would ask to send people to watch their atomic activities. If Iran will dismiss such offer it will be a real proof of their intentions. MEA and ONZ is working in wrong stupid way. This organizations lost their ethics and ideals.
     
  10. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Iran Test fires Anti-Vessel Missiles:
    http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=174601


    Iran Warns it could close Waterway vital to oil shipments
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    http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/04/mideast/iran.php
    Iran is provoking the United States, along with the rest of the world.
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Oh no... better hide under your bed.

    As if the US isn't provoking Iran by having such a massive presence in the Gulf, or by Cheney talking about staging an attack on US troops to blame on Iran. Or the US' constant sabre-rattling against Iran. You don't consider that provocation?

    Iran can "provoke" the US all they want, but they have very limited means to do anything, and likely won't, unless they are attacked first.

    Iran is not the evil demon you think.
     
  12. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    :( There is too many CDs under my bed, there's no room.

    I never said that the US wasn't provoking Iran, but thank you. I really should have played devil's advocate but I didn't want some people (mostly Americans who posted in this thread) to think that Iran is just some innocent country minding their own business, running free elections and having a legitimate leader with a functioning and free government.

    I don't think Iran is an evil demon. I am concerned for the people of Iran and the leaders of the country being out of step with the people.
     
  13. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    America has 4,075 active nukes yet we worry about their nuclear facilities (for power) and missiles that target ships =/ It seems pretty clear that this production is in response to America provoking Iran; it seems that they are preparing to defend themselves.

    "The U.S. and Israel have repeatedly claimed Iran is trying to access nuclear weapons while the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has reported no violations so far. Iran’s nuclear program is under IAEA’s complete surveillance."

    Terrifying -_- Also, the U.S. and Israel both make these claims... do I have to point it out? What information do they use to make these claims? Where does the information come from... ? Anyway, is intelligence really that reliable? (Claims of Iraq having WMD).

    What happens when Iran does have access to nukes... ok, now what?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

    These countries are allowed to have nukes but Iran, with a history of peace, can't? Come on.
     
  14. Son of Peace

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    It all works out man. Hopefully we can find a common ground ya know?
     
  15. def zeppelin

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    That's just it, son of peace, both America and Israel seem dead set in starting a war with Iran; It doesn't seem like they are interested in reaching for a common ground.

    I really hope that I am wrong, though. Attacking Iran would cause a very dangerous domino effect. You can't just attack Iran and expect no retaliation...
     
  16. Son of Peace

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    I try to talk to people about issues just like this all the time and the response I always get is that they do not believe me because they did not see it on the news. The news sources they listen too are fox news, abc news, nbc news etc. . When I try to remind them that corporately funded news sources tend not to tell the whole truth, they shrug the thought of that off and tell me that the free press I read is fake.

    As I walk away from the conversation in utter disbelief of peoples ignorance, I think I can here a faint BAAAAAAA come from the group.
     
  18. Son of Peace

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    well let them baaaa we're here to learn
     
  19. Astrolog

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    That's not true pretty. They said that about closing just after Bush said that they will send ships to the bay. That was their reaction and Bush didn't send those ships.

    Remember the news in newspaper when there was article that Mahmud Ahmadineżad said that Aushwitz didn't existed? That was west propaganda manipulation. In fact he said that 'if you don't think that palestinian camp is not a concentration camp then so Aushiwitz wasn't concentration camp either'. Small difference huh?

    This Friday on Mary's University in Belfast is a reading: "Syria, Iran - danger or victims" of course victims, I'm going.

    Graham Bowley is stupid ashole as I think.
     
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