I can't stand my friends approach to drugs.

I'm fascinated by drugs, especially psychedelics. Marijuana has always affected me greatly, it's never been the "giggles and eat" kind of thing. I have an intense psychedelic experience when I smoke.

I've tried Salvia, LSD, LSA, and mushrooms. I've gotten few visuals, the trip has been more focused on my mind. I never really considered any of these "fun" drugs, and I tend to get annoyed when people treat them like a "really cool visualizer that doesn't mean anything".

I have a friend who I've tripped acid and smoked salvia/pot with and lately I've been getting very annoyed, more than I should. It's all at the approach he takes to drugs, it's never more than "wow I feel really high" and visuals. I never see anything meaningful come out of it (on his end; I feel that I've learned useful lessons from every drug I've taken- I make that a point), I've even asked and he never responds with anything. I'd like to treat these substances as spiritual tools but all I ever hear in the background is "whoa are you high? i'm high. you feelin it??". He also makes choices to use drugs impulsively, without any research.
I guess that means I should trip alone or find another person to trip with, and save the reacreational highs for this friend.

Although through all this, I can't help but feel I'm being arrogant and putting myself up on this high pedestal of righteousness- what makes my approach any more "right"? Nothing, really. But I can't help but feel annoyed.

Oh well, I guess I needed to vent. Thoughts?

 

I don't see why drug experiences have to be 'meaningful'.

 

neither do I drugs are meant for me to escape boredom thats it for me.

 

Drugs are can be many things to an individual. It's fact that some will Do drugs purely for the physical sensations i.e high, some use them as spiritual guides. Learn to accept peoples views/opinions/beliefs.

peace

 

Don't feel arrogant, feel correct, because you are.

 

Before you conclude what you've concluded maybe you should straight up tell him these thoughts. Ask him if things like weed are just "giggles and food" or if he gets something more. He might be embarrassed to talk about the more meaningful stuff, or it might be really personal for him, or maybe he thinks some things are better off left unsaid, and in your mind, when you're high.

 

Your friend will probably end up eating a whole lot of acid one day and have a very very profound experiance without even expecting it. some people cant articulate the lessons they learn into spoken word.

 

that's because words are inferior as a means of communication. something I learned on a mushroom trip, incidentally

OP, people can only learn and realize things on their own accord. if someone uses psychedelics or any drug just for fun, then that's fine. they might learn eventually, but just because you understand certain things doesn't necessarily mean you should try to teach/tell others. I guess what I'd do is talk about my realizations with the friend, not from an educating standpoint though, just as banter.

 

Yea, Geometry and music are much better mediums for transfering data regarding form and reality XD

 

why does it bug you? its not you who sees there approach

 

you know what ticks me off? when i meet someone who CAN'T stand drugs. i mean, they do NOT like them in anyway what so ever and they will not interact with you because of it. it's fucked up.

 

I can't stand my friends. They suck.

 

maybe your friend has reached all his potential with you and hes grown as much as he can. ive never done LSD but if your getting so much out of it, maybe you can grow with someone else. maybe if you find the right person to trip with or more by yourself, youll discover something amazing. just a thought

 

dude I've taken hundreds of hits of acid, and have seen a lot of eff'd up stuff....everyone reacts differently to drugs...I had a real good friend that was the spitting image of you.....the kid was way beyond the realms of any normal intelligence....he was too smart for his own good and I used to be like dude your wasting yourself on drugs you could curing diseases or whatever.....but anyways when he tripped it was like the same thing, he used drugs (especially acid) to solve any deep mental issues he had going on, I'm not really sure how to explain it in words, it was 100% psychodelic, its like he just found the cure to cancer or something like that, its really hard explain, you would have had to tripped before to kinda get the picture, but anyways, thats why I used to love tripping with him, he was so serious with everything as I tried to be along with him but I would end up laughing my balls off because its like you understand because your in the same frame of mind as the other person, but at the same time you are like um what the fuck are you talking about....but anyways your not crazy dude, thats how a lot of people are

 

Im right there with you buddy, I have the EXACT same philosophy. All of the locals I deal with just take these substances for shits and giggles, yet I see these substances as tools or guides to enlightenment and when I try to convey my thoughts about said so substances I get ridiculed for it. I've come to find the best solution for this is not to educate the ones who are doing it for "kicks", but to leave them be and enjoy their experiences while you find other like-minded individuals who share the same outlook on these substances and consume with them instead of different-minded folks. Neither is right or wrong it's just about whats right for YOU. Good Luck

 

Atleast be glad you get something out of it, even though they don't. Not everyone can use drugs in the same way, some people are affraid of what lies deep in their mind and will stay with visuals, fun and giggles because they're affraid to go deep. If thats where they are right now in their life, I suppose that'd be best for them. If you think they'd be ready for a deep trip, explain them what you got out of it, tell them you'd like a more deep trip with meaningful conversations and insights and if that doesn't work: find other tripbuddy's.

I personally trip for both reasons by the way, I'm a visual / image thinker and I get use amounts of visuals, on both LSD and shrooms in somewhat medium doses I get so much visuals I can barely if at all see any of the real world in the peak but I love the insights, the thoughts, the way it digs in to your mind and somehow manages to dig up the real me, and connects the outer me to that inner bit to complete some circle again. Its lovely.

Either way, you can both accept what they do and try to convince them theres more to it, or find other trip friends.

 

every body has their own reaction and views to a drug if you really want your friend to take something away from a trip i suggest you roll with'm one on one it may sound gay or whatever but so is everything when your rolling besides exchanging story's back and forth for 8 hours is great fun personally i prefer the campfire setting but thats just me

 

Why do you even bother to call them friends then? LOL, ignore that I'm just being a smart-ass.