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-beatnick · Aug 1, 2008

yea, i hear its legal to grow, on a small scale, and is only illegal when you put the razor to the poppy. but don't go do this simply because i said so, research yourselves, i don't want to be responsible for anyone's legal problems.

DroneLore · Aug 1, 2008

Holy crap, I must have that opium hash.

i_need_a_miracle · Aug 1, 2008

I like poppies.
Clever of the Wicked Witch of the West to use them on Dorothy.

Euphorial · Aug 1, 2008

Damnit, I really want to try some OPM now

And wtf is an opie pipe? How do you get it?

navajas · Aug 1, 2008

dunno about sum of u guys, but i used to nod n itch like crazy on opium. theres morphine n codeine there, hell yeah u gonna itch. the secret is eating it. i tried all ways of ingestion, im middle eastern n we have it every where here, trust me put a small ball of opium n ur mouth n suck on it until it completely dissolves. tastes soooo bitter, but after a couple of highs u start to associate the taste with the euphoria.

kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

navajas said:

dunno about sum of u guys, but i used to nod n itch like crazy on opium. theres morphine n codeine there, hell yeah u gonna itch. the secret is eating it. i tried all ways of ingestion, im middle eastern n we have it every where here, trust me put a small ball of opium n ur mouth n suck on it until it completely dissolves. tastes soooo bitter, but after a couple of highs u start to associate the taste with the euphoria.
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holy fuckin shit thats amazing! so its legal to gro poppies huh? thats interesting. how the fuck exactly do you convert it from plants in your yard to little opium rocks like that? is it easy or hard?

The Mushroom Man · Aug 2, 2008

As far as I know, you put the razor to the poppy (the ILLEGAL part), and scrape the goo off, then ball it up and let it dry. there ya go, opium. Also, this post is for educational purposes only, don't do this.

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kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

ahh great, i learned a lot thanks. I just wanted to learn about it, you know, educationally. Now i just wanna learn where to get poppie seeds and how to grow that shit, for educational purposes

kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

wow this sounds too easy! omg should I try this? is it worth its?

Opium

How To Grow Opium Poppies

Disclaimer: This is an attempt at describing how to grow opium poppies outdoors for their opium content. Opium is very important medical drug. Many drugs used to reduce pain are synthesized from the opium produced by the opium poppy (Papaver somniferum).
Do not use this information to break any laws that may exist in your community. Growing opium poppies to produce your own opium is illegal in some places where doctors, drug companies, and governments have a monopoly on dealing drugs.
Smoking opium that comes from the opium poppy can be an enjoyable spiritual pursuit, when practiced in moderation. Many artists and intellectuals have drawn inspiration from the effects of opium ingestion.
In various parts of the world there is no pension system. In some cases, a person must work until they die. People who preform physical jobs sometimes smoke opium to ease the pain enough for them to be able to work.
Most western countries allow chronic pain sufferers to take pain medication like codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine, etcetera. These medications are all synthesized from opium.
Unless directed by a doctor, opium or any pain medication that is derived from opium should not be taken more often than once every four days. If you do some on friday, wait till tuesday (or longer) before doing it again. Addiction can be a problem and tolerance (needing more to produce the same results) can develop.

Buy Opium Poppy Seeds

First, buy opium poppy seeds. Papaver somniferum seeds are the only ones you want to cultivate opium poppies. They are legal and available in most countries.
Buy them online if you can't find a suitable source where you live. A good supplier of Papaver somniferum seeds can be found here, they ship from the USA to most countries. The majority of people that buy Papaver somniferum seeds in order to grow them do so in order to plant them in a garden.
They have no intention of harvesting the opium the plants produce. Do not mention opium or drugs when ordering seeds. If for any reason you must talk to a salesperson, refer to opium poppies by their botanical name, Papaver somniferum.
Most seed sellers ship from areas where opium is illegal. They will refuse a sale or report the order to police if they think the seeds will be used to produce opium. Even if it is legal for you to grow opium, it is not legal everywhere. Avoid hassles by using discretion.
There will be a few hundred seeds in a seed pack (most seed packs are about 1 gram), so one or two will be all you need to get started. Six to eight seed packs will be more than enough seeds, unless you are going to grow on a commercial scale. You can supply your own seeds by harvesting a few dry seed capsules that were not used to make opium.
Seeds you produce yourself can be used to provide the next years crop of opium. A single healthy seed capsule will generate hundreds of seeds. Papaver somniferum seeds will remain viable for 2-5 years when stored under cool, dark, and dry conditions.
There are different varieties of Papaver somniferum. The main differences being things like optimal growing conditions, harvest time, their capsule size, and the way the flowers look.
'Giganteum' or 'Hen And Chickens' or 'Persian' poppy seed are very good varieties of Papaver somniferum seed to grow for opium production. However, any variety of Papaver somniferum seed that is viable (will sprout a root and grow) can be used.
Just buy Papaver somniferum seeds and try to raise a crop. If you are successful, you can start experimenting with different varieties of Papaver somniferum to see what works best in the growing conditions available.
When working with several different varieties of Papaver somniferum at the same time, it is best to keep each variety in a separate area. In this way you can determine which type produces the most opium.
Once you know what variety of Papaver somniferum is best for the available growing conditions, you can cultivate it alone, to produce the next years opium crop.
hen and chickens seed is so named because the plant produces a main pod surrounded by smaller pods. to some, this looks like a mother hen surrounded by her chicks.

Plant The Opium Poppy Seeds

Opium Poppies prefer a cool climate over hot weather. In hot areas, they will do well in the mountains or places where it stays cool. They grow best in loose, well drained soil and don't do well in dense soil like clay.
A night time drop in temperature of 20 degrees F or more is much better than a steady temperature through the day and night. This night time temperature drop is most important the first eight weeks of the plants life (during and after germination).
The pH of the soil should be somewhere in the neutral range of about 7. Papaver somniferum has been grown in all the continental US by gardeners. Prior to 1942, it was grown commercially (primarily to be made into morphine) in several states.
Germination is the start of the life cycle for the plant. The seed is placed in soil and supplied with water. If conditions are right and the seeds are good, they will germinate.
To germinate, the seeds can be spaced about 5 inches apart by dropping them in the intended location. Then cover with about a half inch of loose soil. During germination, night-time temperatures of 35 to 45 degrees F and day-time temperatures of 50 to 65 degrees F are best.
Once planted, mist the seeds at least once a day and keep them moist (not soaking wet). The soil needs to be kept moist until the plant germinates and produces a main root (below ground so you can't see it) and leaves.
When you see the first leaves, you know the plant has germinated properly and the root system has started to established itself. The opium poppy seeds are vulnerable until the sprouts are a couple of inches tall.
You can start the plants in late fall or early spring. If planted in the fall, they should be planted so they have time to grow a few inches before the first snowfall.
They will lay dormant in the winter and start growing again the next spring. Some will probably die in the winter but enough should survive to produce a crop. Snow provides good insulation over the winter months.
If all the plants die over the winter, the area you live in might be too extreme to start Papaver somniferum in the fall but you can try starting a new batch at the beginning of spring.
If you live in an area that has mild winters (the temperature does not go below 32F), you can wait till mid-late december to start the plants. Starting the plants in fall-winter allows them to continue growing as soon as the weather heats up in spring. This means they will be able to harvest earlier than those started in spring.
If you plant in spring, try planting as early as possible. Plant the seeds as soon as the last winter snow recedes. Starting opium poppies at the edge of melting snow is recommended.
Poppies do not transplant well. If you have to germinate the plant anywhere other than where it will be grown, use something like peat cups so you can place the holder directly in the ground without touching the roots.
As the root system has established itself, the ideal temperature is the same as it was during germination. Soil that is moist but not wet is preferred and 8-14 hours (12 is optimal) of sunlight per day. Some of the young plants may flop over and look like they are dying, but most of them will stand up and continue growing in a few days.
This stage lasts 2 weeks or more, after which, the growth stage will start. As the plants grow, you will have to decide which are the healthiest and make sure they have 12 inches around them to grow. That means cutting down any other poppy plants within 12 inches of a healthy one. This thinning should take place when the plants are 4-6 inches tall.
If the plants are crowded the harvest will be smaller than it would be if the plants were spaced properly. Crowding conditions will produce a low number of smaller sized flower heads. Under good growing conditions the plant will start a main stem that will branch into several stems.
Each stem will produce a flower and then a seed pod (capsule) that can be scored to produce opium. Most plants produce 3-5 flower heads, with 7 or more reported by some growers. A single flower usually means the plants need more space.
For optimal growth, seedlings like cow or chicken manure, when fertilizer is needed. As the plant grows, more nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium can be added. A general purpose 20-10-20 fertilizer is good.
As the plant matures it likes drier soil, longer days, and stronger sunlight than it did during earlier stages of growth. Just prior to and during flowering, warm daytime temperatures (68-75 degrees), cool nights (35-55 degrees), and dry conditions are preferred. After flowering, any rain or moisture will dilute the opium and make it less potent.
Flowering starts about 8-12 weeks after germination. 16 or more hours of sunlight a day is optimal (but not always possible) when flowering. The important thing is that the plant gets lots of sunlight at this time. After flowering, petals will fall off the flower in 2 days to several weeks.
When the petals fall off, the seed capsules develop. The capsule will be ready to harvest about 14-20 days after the petals fall off. Outdoors, the total time from germination to harvest will be about 120-140 days.

Harvesting Opium

After the last petal has dropped, keep an eye on the gray band at the top of the capsule where the petals were attached. When the gray band is very dark (almost black) the opium is ready to harvest. This will be about 14-20 days after the petals fall off.
Harvesting means making a shallow cut to release opium from the seed capsule. The cut should be less than one-sixteenth of an inch deep. Do it all around the pod. As you do so, you will see little blobs of white coming out.
Leave the wounds to release opium for 3-6 hours. Then collect your opium. By now, the white blobs will have turned into yellow/brown blobs that can be scraped off and collected on a blunt putty knife or something similar.

There are better methods of making cuts so the amount of opium you get is maximized. Pages 47-51 of opium poppy garden, describe (using text and illustrations) how to harvest several yields of opium from the plant over the course of a month.
The book also shows how to make simple tools (for making cuts, harvesting, and collecting opium) out of inexpensive items found in a hardware store or kitchen. Photos from the back cover of the book, showing the opium harvest process, are located here.
After the opium is harvested, the easiest way to consume it is by smoking. A quarter (1/4) gram or less at a time, from a specially designed opium pipe is recommended. Remember, only once every four days!
When an opium pipe is not available, you can break up the opium into very small pieces (about the size of grains of sand) and mix it thoroughly with some ground up marijuana (or tobacco if necessary), the mixture can be smoked in a joint.
This opium-marijuana mixture will also work in a regular marijuana pipe with a screen, but put the opium on top of the marijuana so it doesn't liquify and flow past the screen. A real opium pipe vaporizes (when used properly), rather than burns the opium.

Notes On How To Grow Opium

--- This really does work and opium poppies are fairly easy to grow. It is legal to grow Papaver somniferum flowers in almost all parts of the world.
When disaster strikes people must be able to look after themselves. If you are taking any kind of prescribed narcotic pain killer, you might not always have the ability to access a pharmacy in times of emergency.
Raising opium poppies as a garden plant (or for poppy seeds) can be a rewarding gardening experience. Even if you don't produce any opium, you will know that you will be able to, if the need should arise.
--- After you raise your first successful crop you can start experimenting with when to plant, pH levels, fertilizer and different strains of Papaver somniferum to see what works best in the growing conditions available.
--- In some areas, knowing that the poppies you grow produce opium is illegal. If you are arrested, it will be assumed that you were growing them for the opium they produce. If you live somewhere like this and grow Papaver somniferum, you should not read this page.
In other areas, once you start to scratch the seed capsules to produce opium, you become party to a conspiracy to manufacture narcotics. Not very smart, so be careful and check local laws before growing Papaver somniferum in your community.
--- As far as the conversion of opium to heroin goes, you will need some practical chemistry experience and instructions. OXY by otto snow is probably the best choice of books for the chemist that wants to produce heroin, morphine, oxycodone, hydrocodone or other opioid drugs from raw opium.
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navajas · Aug 2, 2008

bro its so easy... i used to go in the middle of the desert between mountains where all the bedouin cartels live, huge fields of cannabis and opium poppies. they even used to do the blade thing infront of me. all u need is the poppy n the blade n u got opium. but make sure u do it when the time is right for highest yield.

-beatnick · Aug 2, 2008

kil0, if you do do this, be very careful and do it on a very small scale. because the government can use that as an excuse to watch you and putting the razor to the poppy could mean intent to distribute based on the amount, and not to forget manufacturing.

kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

can the poppies be grown indoors like weed? Of course If I do it Im gonna do it a microscopic scale, I'll be growing for personal use only. I dont even know anyone who would even like to try opium. I'll be growing it for myself to smoke a couple bowls every now and then. opium just looks and sounds so magical..

-beatnick · Aug 2, 2008

Yea, I'm sure you could grow them inside, it would need some kind of light assembly though, probably not like the marijuana cycles. Whatever, read.

kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

the even better part is that according to that guide I posted, poppies require less light to grow than weed. lower electric bill lol

-beatnick · Aug 2, 2008

Sweet, I aim to try Opium at some point. But I want it to be some official Middle Eastern/Asian sticky nasty. But if I lived in those areas I'd probably never leave.

kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

i feel ya on the official shit, but you should be able to find decent opium in nyc im assuming.. yall got everything plus more.

navajas · Aug 2, 2008

growing opium is much easier than cannabis... id hook u up with og middle eastern opium if u hook me up with lsd lol....

kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

too bad ur in canada (i think?) and im in south florida. Cuz I can get some pretty good acid, but I dont think theres ever been opium down here. im having trouble find heroin, thats how bad the opiate business is here. the for the most part, Im having trouble finding H because im too shy and sorta embarrassed about what people will say about me if I ask em if they can get heroin.

I know its not even that bad (recreational wise, not addiction), but the name HEROIN just carries such a negative junky stigma and reputation that some people i know will never look at me the same if I ask them on a serious tip if they can get heroin. its a shame....

navajas · Aug 2, 2008

yeah i feel u... it took me long time to ask my delaer for heroin... it also sucks when the dealer is a person who cares about u n trust me such a thing does exist... my dealer never got me heroin cuz we were kinda friends, so i had to find another ruthless filthy muthaphukka to get h from... btw never be embarassed to ask, i never asked my dealer about ketamine cuz i was pretty sure he wont have it cuz i asked him for acid b4 n he didnt have it... one day i was like have u ever heard of a drug called ketamine, he was like i sell it... n i got it from him... i was shocked that he had it cuz ketamine is notoriously rare...

kil0 · Aug 2, 2008

thats the thing, Im not like Shocbomb who cops his dope in the projects off random dealers on the corner. If that was the case it would be no problem. But the problem is, the dealers who I get my all my shit from, except the oxy, are close friends who I grew up with. I can ask for weed, acid, even coke and ecstasy, and it wont be no big deal. But the second I drop the H bomb..just say the word Heroin and I could probably lose friends cuz they are gonna look at me different.

heroin just has a bad rep...

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