Turning it all aroung...

The last trip I had I managed to save myself from falling into a bad trip by concentrating on a happy face that I had drawn on my hand earlier on in the day. Made me realize that I'm just tripping and I managed to turn the whole trip around into one of the best times of my life.

I was just wondering if anyone else has any methods of 'saving themselves' from the strong grip of a bad trip.

 

No. I like to work through my problems instead of ignoring them till they go away.

 

I can't say that I've really had a terrible experience, but I've had a decent share of anxiety and stomach problems. My last experience was with a group of people who I associate with nearly every day. Even though I have no negative feelings towards them, I have found that while tripping, groups can be frustrating. The main problem that I have is wondering what everyone else wants to do and constantly thinking that something should be done. I completely solved this by going off by myself, where I could be completely free. If you just sit back and don't try to cure your problems, they usually present themselves in a different, more positive manner.

 

whenever i have a bad time, i just get up from where im at and walk

walking is amazing with the trip

 

same here man

my friends always want to trip in 5 person groups and shit

but that gets frustrating sometimes because 2 people will be having a conversation then another person will talk about something else and interrupt and ahhh im just gonna say it gets messy

im down for groups of 3 or less

unless the groups split up during the trip

that always seems to work

 

Can save myself? Yes. His name's Bluetech and he's a Psychill/ambient producer/artist.
'Prayers for Rain' will get you back on track.

Failing that, just do something different.. try not to think too hard.. in your freak of an acid haze, realise time only moves forward and every second that ticks is purely an extent of the last - no time to dwell.. no time at all.

And I am completely with the above post, on the 'too many tripping friends and confusing conversations' subject!!!

 

haha. me and my friends used to get groups of 10+ people together and just dose high together in an apartment. acid frenzy anyone?

 

i think you should be proud of yourself for turning around a trip. I don't think it's necessarily ignoring your problems, because an acid trip is a notoriously difficult time to do that. I think it shows a lot of mental fortitude to turn a trip around by means of such a simple device as a smilie face. I think if your mind was weighed down with latent problems you might not have been able to flip it.

 

well aren't you special.
not every difficult trip has some deep, existential meaning at the heart of it that is beneficial to work through. they can be triggered by an infinite number of things, and there's no reason to dwell on it if there's no internal benefit.

 

Actually, 90% of the time, it's because you DO have some issue that you don't want to deal with. Either that or your environment.

And what infinite number of things? You have bad setting, bad mindset or too high of a dose. ALL bad trips fall into one of those categories, and at least 3/4 IME, are from a bad mindset.

And just because you don't see a benefit right now doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Quit looking to solve the symptoms and solve the problems. You'll be much happier.

 

i am not quite sure i see where you get off telling me what causes my bad trips.

i'm sorry that you seem to have all these problems you have to work through, but as you said, it's in your experience; you should be more careful about applying what little you've experienced in the world to the vast collective experience of those around you.

as for the effects of set and setting (which, personally, i think is something of an outdated, timothy leary concept that gets bandied about a little too much, but again, just my opinion): i'm not saying that bad trips aren't caused by bad settings or bad sets or high doses. i'm saying that of the infinite permutations of bad sets or settings, there's an infinite amount of possibility that your difficult trip has nothing to do with some deep seated insecurity or problem. maybe you're just hungry for god's sake.

for the record though, the main point of my previous post was essentially to tell you to quit implying that you're better than the others on this board simply because you feel no reason to be happy during your trips.

 

I don't really have too many problems anymore. I don't know where you got that I did? And I apply what I know to those around me, because I've seen what happens on a bad trip. Of all fucking kinds. And every single time, I could trace it back to set, setting or dose.

OK, so if you have a bad trip because you were hungry, that means you didn't have food. LSD doesn't change your ability to know that you have to eat. You either don't have food now (should have changed your SETTING so that it contained something to eat) or you've been hungry for a while (which means your MINDSET) was bad to begin with. Now, if you take TOO HIGH OF A DOSE, you might forget to eat, which could b misconstrued into a bad trip if you're not prepared, but that's not common whatsoever.

And the main point of this point is to tell you that I don't think I'm better than anyone. Doing drugs doesn't make me cool. I think I've been there and fucking seen it with my own eyes. I've given psychedelics to every type of person imaginable, from age 14 to 45, schizos, people with OCD, normal people, skaters, jocks, preps, druggies, any kind of mindset you can imagine. I've dealt with people thinking they were dying on DMT in my house. I've had a kid balled up on my couch, screaming at my wall to stop moving or he would kill it. I know fucking bad trips. I'm trying to let everybody else learn through me without having to go through some of the fucked up shit that I did.

Who ever said that I'm not happy during my trips? I've only had one bad one, actually, on salvia.

 

you sure know a lot. thatz a lot of mindz that youve given lsd 2. sk8terz and druggies? my goodness you must have seen it all. people arent all the same youve got to be one hell of an arrogant person to claim you are prepared to know how anyone would act after given acid. you know what happenz after you die too am i wrong? out of curiosity have you given anyone older than 45 lsd? they were around in the 70z could probably teach you a thing or 2 huh? im sure i got it all wrong go ahead and justify your shit

 

OK, well, you guys keep dropping acid and having bad trips, then blaming it on your hunger or whatever excuse you use to hide from yourself. If you ever decide you wanna deal with the problem instead of the symptoms, I'll be here to talk.

 

i think it's a great idea to prepare a little lifeline or anchor in advance. i believe the trip starts before you actually ingest the drug. i always meditate and pray for 45mins. beforehand, bless the lsd, and then put everything i may need on my journey in it's perfect place. it then gives me the freedom and confidence to really let myself go and explore the depths of my inner universe. never had a bad trip yet!

 

It's not always that deep. Sometimes life just sucks and you're on acid.

 

agreed.

 

your original post, you clearly implied that those who try to get out of bad trips (everyone on this thread) are ignoring their problems, while you (the apparent psychedelic guru) know the correct, better way to handle a difficult experience.

thank you, i will ignore everything else you have to say in this thread. you quite obviously have no authority to discuss difficult acid trips.

 

i cant think of any time that i have had a trip go bad, but on any trip, you could have some negative thoughts or bad things might happen to you.

to "reset" a trip, try a nitrous baloon, or do something that requires your full concentration (like breaking up pot and rolling a joint) dwelling on the thing thats freaking you out will get you stuck in a loop, so live in the moment, you ARE what you DO at that moment, make decisions based on love and flee from evil.

acid will sometimes kick you in the head to let you know the difference between right and wrong. you cannot change the past, but you can find forgiveness, within yourself. do the right thing in the moment you are in. EVERYTHING will be fine.

also, hugs help when your stressed out and tripped out. reminds you that theres love everywhere.

 

We need to solve our problems for recurring issues. but lots ofp roblems are trivial and by moving our attention we realise this in heinsight.

Its only 'distracting' yourself if you need to keep doing it, thus meaning the thought is coming out of your inner psych and not from some event in time.

But theres times when its best to sit with the problem for a bit and explore it to avoid superficial complications