Using pods or seeds to make...sniffable/shootable?

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by dean0x2006, Jul 16, 2008.

  1. dean0x2006

    dean0x2006 Member

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    is there anyway to use the pods or seeds to produce/dry out some type opiate from the plant that is sniffable or shootable?

    also what is the process for this? how much/how? links to literature on this would be awesome. thanks
     
  2. .leapfrog.

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    your dumb if you want to stick a needle in your arm, and you don't mainline opium, that's heroin, and it has to be refined from opium into a tar or powder that you melt and mix with water. it's not that simple. do some research....................idiot.
     
  3. dean0x2006

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    stfu..who u think u r tellin me im stupid...who gives a sh** kid... im asking how i can get a powder from the pods so i can sniff it and/or shoot it who cares...aight
     
  4. Newbomb Turk

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    In short....my answer to your inquiry is basically no and no. I long time drinker of poppy pod tea myself (a lifesaver to those of us in pain management for those periods where the script falls short a few days in between refills) and have this to say about poppy pod tea:

    1. Be VERY careful with consuming poppy pod tea. Its made up of over 29 or so different alkaloids, however Morphine, Codeine, and Thebaine are the primary active narcotic ingredients that are extracted when steeped in scalding hot water for 15 to 20 minutes after it has been crushed/blended to form what is called "poppy straw". But I say BE CAREFUL because again....as I posted in another thread regarding the fine line between therapeutic and death dosages when it comes to Morphine are very close. And when it comes to pods...they are a NATURAL occurring narcotic....basically a plant that can have MAJOR differences in purity from one crop to the next. So whereas with say one batch of say some "Purple Spotted Jumbo's" might get one person a VERY NICE Opiate high with using 12 pods, a different batch of the same Purple Spotted Jumbo's might take only 3 to do the trick because of that particular strain might triple the Morphine content as it might have been a late fall crop, whereas the batch you ordered over the summer was a Spring crop that might have gotten too much watering during its last week of life and lost potency because of it. There is no way to tell basically...well no SCIENTIFIC way of telling for those of us average Joe's at home other than perhaps going off of taste and shade color (the darker usually means the stronger)...and one could easily OD by consuming a batch of strong ass tea.

    2. I have slowly....very slowly steamed off the excess water, NOT BOILED as boiling will destroy the active alkaloids in your batch...you NEVER bring your tea to a boil. But I have slowly and painstakingly simmered down a batch which resulted in a deep dark brown sludge that many confuse with as being Opium which in fact it is not but rather referred to as is "Poppy Puddy". And once dried out can be smoked. I have tried this method and found that although it can be smoked to some extent, the slight buzz you get is FAR LESS than had I just drank it in the tea.

    3. Snorting from a finely VERY DRIED powder COULD be possibly feasible (although I have never tried it, nor will I probably ever), I would advise against it. Reason being...again as you have a natural product there that consists of 3 primary active narcotic alkaloids...you also have like 26 others that I would NOT be interested in introducing into my nasal passages and onto my delicate sinus membranes.

    4. Poppy tea is best ingested orally (preferably after having consumed some White Grapefruit Juice that is used for the CP450 enzyme inhibition which allows for a greater bio-availability absorption of the Morphine), or even better yet when injected rectally as it bypasses first pass liver metabolism as it directly enters the bloodstream through the intestinal wall lining. It all depends on your preference and willingness to experiment with alternative routes of administration.

    Save the insufflation to the Roxicodones or OC's man. Pod tea should be just that....tea.

    IMHO
     
  5. dean0x2006

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    theres gotta be a way to extract just the raw opium from the pods then dry it out to a powder n im sure it would be able to be sniffed or injected...no? Please let me know the process needed for this--I would like to somehow get dope (H) out of the raw opium somehow..but i doubt ne1 knows how to process it to make heroin..that would be SICKK..if anyone has any information on either one of these processes let me know please..thank you
     
  6. Mr.Writer

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    The amount of poppy flowers you would need to get usable amount of heroin are quite large.
     
  7. dean0x2006

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    yea but then to actually convert it and stuff, thats probably like impossible right? though sometimes i think like if they can make it in south east asia in the middle of no where with barely any real cultivation stuff, theres gotta be a way for me to get some pure opium from the flowers and basically just isolate just the morphine or just the opiates. i believe i read if u add lime or lemon or acidic to dilute it, it does just that (isolate opiates..kills plant matter..)

    let me know what you think...and when you say alot, you mean like what probably---500 flowers?
     
  8. Mr.Writer

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    Dean, I'm not trying to be mean here, but you have no idea what the F you're talking about. If you're really interested in doing this you need to start using the 3 axis of drug research:

    1) Google.com

    2) Erowid.com

    3) Hipforums Search Button

    Look up the process for turning morphine into heroin. Those dudes making H don't use "barely any real cultivations stuff". It's a billion-dollar business.
     
  9. RecoveringJunkie

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    Tbh mate, making H is a high set up cost, multi million dollar business, first they slash the Opium pods with a special tool, then walk round their fields scraping the opium gum off the pods, this is done over a period of around a week.
    This raw opium is then processed into Morphine Base, the Morphine Base is shipped off to a lab, where it is finally processed into pure Heroin.
    I'm sure it would be possible on a small scale, the chemicals needed to process Opium>Morphine>Heroin aren't flagged like the precursor chemicals for L.S.D, but for the amount of H you will get back, you may as well just go and buy the shit, it'd be far cheaper. Plus if you did follow the steps needed to process Opium into Heroin, you would end up with at least 80%-90% pure end product, which I'm 100% certain will kill you.
    Adding an acidic compound to Heroin will seperate the opiate from the shit it's been cut with, but this is done as the next to last step before injecting, and if you do use Lemon Juice be prepared to go blind eventually, pure Citric acid is the way to go. I can't comment on whether it'd have any effect if mixed with raw opium, I'm not well up enough on the chemistry of Opiates and their reactions with other compounds.
     
  10. sam&ella

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    You're a guest, rj...cannot pm ya, but; get your shit strait. Your education abounded from the French Connection and not the JACS?
     
  11. RecoveringJunkie

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    Please feel free to correct me, that's just my laymens understanding of how Heroin is produced from Morphine, I never claimed to be an expert.
    Have I done something to offend you? For the past few replies to my posts all you seem to do is criticise, question and insult me. Please, if you have any constructive criticism to offer I'm all ears.
     
  12. sam&ella

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    No insults intendend.:)
     
  13. RecoveringJunkie

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    OK, my bad. Sorry, am just more than a little uptight at the minute, and tend to go off on one at the slightest provocation, I've sent you an E-Mail so you can delete that other post now.
     
  14. sam&ella

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    thanks, reply on way...
    jim
     
  15. Codone

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    Never, ever, EVER inject anything that contains plant material into your bloodstream. You will likely die or, at the very least, get so sick you have to go to the ER and then explain what you've done in order for them to treat you. Opium, no matter how refined, contains a considerable amount of plant matter, whereas heroin and other medicinal concoctions only contain negligible amounts, if any. This was discussed on Bluelight not long ago...
     
  16. TryptamineScape

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    I hate to dig up old threads, but the question was about snorting. I'm pretty sure most heroin goes through a 4 step process (brownish to blackish) and the best undergoes one more step for purification (which is what makes it whitish). It would be difficult to make heroin, but that's not what was asked. Why can you not just take the opium and do a typical solvent extraction and snort the end product?
     

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