Another Dog fighting ring busted here.

there is no physical abuse to the dog by any reputable breeders..
that shit has been going on around here as long as i can remember..
my uncle raised and fought pitbulls when i was growing up,he was also a deputy sherriff but thats another story..
beyond that due to circumstances beyond my control i have wound up at breeders kennels several times over the years but i havent witnessed a fight since i was a child..
that bein said,,it seems to me the only thing it takes to "raise" a pitbull to fight is to isolate them from other dogs and deny them any interaction with them..
from there its just instinct for them to want to kill.

they were bred for feral livestock control,.they are quite good at that.. ive seen them bring down a cow before..

 

They are also pets for people that don't enjoy watching dogs forced to fight. The people across the street from me have a pitbull and he is a sweet loving pet that never even bothers the other dogs around it. It wants to play with them. it's how you raise them.

Peace

 

as i stated a fighting dog is denied any contact with other dogs.. it does not have a chance to get used to other animals..
so yes it does have to do with the way they are raised.. well duh..

 

also,,every single day in america of those same "loving family dogs" somewhere ones instinct kicks in and it kills a neighbors pet or child or there own masters child..
the breed has a instinct to kill that you can try and train around,and many do successfully but with that breed there is no guarantee that no matter how good of a master you are and how well you train it that its instincts wont kick in and it wont kill..
and that is a fact that cant be denied..

 

that is true... can't deny that...

 

Ok I'm wrong. Lets have dog fighting out in the fucking street. Just give up. fuck it their gonna kill something anyway right. Cool.
these dogs are no good HHB is right. You just can't control a killer. Wait. maybe we should just kill them at birth. Oh can't do that we may need them to bring down a cow.

Peace

 

Geez, I wasn't saying that I was just saying that it's undeniable to say that dogs that were brought up with in a nice loving home don't turn and bite people or attack people, that would be asinine to assume... And I just stated that HHB statement is true and you couldn't deny that fact...

I do think dogs attacking dogs in wild and on their terms is different than dogs fighting dog fights..But I can't deny the fact that dogs do snap and attack or bite people...

 

you jump so far in conclusions you make yourself look like a moron..
did i ever say i approved of dog fighting?

research the breed yourself.. that is what they were bred for..
i cant change the facts just to please the picture you have in your head of the breed..
you can try to blame it on the way they are raised till your blue in the face and the facts prove otherwise..

it is bred into them to kill.. plain and simple..

does that mean we should do away with the breed? i say its simple supply and demand..many breeds have became extinct over the ages due to there use no longer being needed..

as far as the dog fighting in the street,,like i said,,that was just a moronic statement that nearest i can figure was based on you jumping to wild conclusions about my beliefs simply because ive stated facts that cant be denied in this thread...

 

http://www.pitbull411.com/history.html

Sadly, the Romans would not be the last to use pit bulls in cruel and grisly blood sports. When the Normans invaded England in 1066, they introduced a new sport called baiting. Interestingly enough, baiting originated with butchers who kept dogs (called Bullenbeissers) to handle unruly bulls as they were herded to the market for slaughter. When a bull stepped out of line or exhibited uncontrollable behavior, the dogs would clamp down on its nose and simply hang on until the handler could regain control of the wayward animal.

Like most dog owners, the butchers were proud of their canine companions and their stubborn tenacity in dealing with the much larger, and potentially dangerous bulls. Consequently, pubic displays were arranged to showcase the dogs' abilities and, quite frankly, to appease the multitudes that attended baiting events for their entertainment value.
By the 16th century, nearly every town in England had its own baiting ring. The popularity of baiting events was unparalleled at the time, as was their ability to draw spectators from every level of society. Their popularity was further enhanced by the misguided perception that prolonged torture ensured the tenderness of the meat.
In baiting events, no more than one or two dogs were unleashed on the bull. They were trained to unrelentingly harass the bulls until they collapsed from fatigue, their injuries, or both. These episodes lasted for prolonged periods, sometimes as long as three or four hours. Eventually, the public's grew bored with bulls and introduced a creative flair to the sport, baiting dogs with bears, boars, horses, and even monkeys!
In 1406, Edmond de Langley - the Duke of York - produced a short treatise for Henry IV entitled, "The Master of the Game and of Hawks." In it, he described a descendent of the ancient Mastiffs that he called the "Alaunt", the most commonly used baiting dog of the era. A 1585 painting of the Alaunts hunting wild boar portrayed lean, muscular animals with profound similarities to the dogs we know as pit bulls.
Baiting was made illegal by the British parliament in 1835. However, this legislation did little to satiate the public's desire to watch the spectacle of dogs in fighting sports. As a result, their attention turned to a variety of other pursuits such as ratting - a practice in which a dog was thrown in a pit with a varying number of rats. The dogs raced against the clock and each other to determine which one could kill the most rats in the shortest period of time. The "pit" in pit bulls comes from the fact that ratting occurred in a pit that kept the rats from escaping.

 

a 1000 years of being bred to kill becomes instinct.. i dont know how anyone can deny basic laws of evolution and genetics..

 

dogs fight on their own anyways, so how is humans profiting off it make it anymore immoral if it's going to happen on it's own without money being exchanged?

 

amen bro

 

We humans reluctantly deny those laws everyday, it’s called becoming civilized.


Hotwater

 

And the dog that loses, it’s ok to kill them and even bet on how long it takes for them to strangle to death on their own collar


Hotwater

 

chickens are yard buzzards, they'd peck at you and try to do injury to you if you allowed them to.

 

Thanks for thinking about me enough to call me a moron. I knew you loved me. Three of the dogs taken for the dog fighting ring were Rottweilers. Four were pittbulls. I'm not gonna research the dog. I'd rather look at the sick fuck that enjoys this shit. Where did I say you approve of dog fighting ? I said for those who do. I said you might be right about the breed. And again call me anything you want. I consider the source and it is negligible at best.

Peace

 

somehow, i bet if a dog loses more often than not it's the other dog that kills it. don't make the humans out to be any worse than the animal merely for capitalising off of something said animal does on it's own . because the animal likes to fight anyways. i've seen seemingly tame pit bulls snap for no reason, even when they had good homes and were not abused and were exposed to other dogs. i saw a pit bull nearly take a child's head off simply because the child started laughing. needless to say, the pit bull was put to death soon afterwards.

 

Absolutely sick, I can't imagine what kind of mentality it takes to enjoy watching something like that

 

I'm refering to the culture surrounding dog fighting in the modern era.

It's not uncommon for the loser to survive and be put to death by a wide variety of methods, often to sooth the anger of the owner who lost and to induce further betting.

Hotwater

 

as long as aggresive dog breeds exist. someone's going to figure out how to use them to make money. the only way you could get rid of such a thing is to do away with the dog breed in question.