The EGO & LSD, I've found my conclusion

kind of makes smoking pot and eating shrooms rather mean

 

Try dictionary.com

The idea of conclusion when having to be said about my curiosity with Ego & LSD has absolutely no relevance to you making the blank assumption that I have "everything" all figured out, unless of course you consider LSD & Ego everything. But I could care less of whatever it is that you consider LSD & Ego for sake of you not attempting to make more personal attacks / wild ass assumptions and perhaps maybe even an attempt at sane conversation again.

Peace Fren.
:cheers2:

 

so you have everything about lsd and the ego figured out then?

go back and read my post... as i said "everything figured out when it comes to lsd and the ego"

 

I think this thread should be locked before this passive agressive conflict between 3xi and swoOosh gets messy . why i've gone and made it my business no one will ever know.

 

Nah Im not locking it, it's a good discussion aside from the bickering about the definition of the word conclusion :tongue: It's on topic and hasen't gotten ugly so just roll with it!

 

Ok then .

 

ey ey ey

I'll just go over your original post again and hopefully this time you'll reply in response to something from this one. Lol

How so? You are never any more specific as to how this is true at all (seeing as it is a logical statement). But, I guess in your case: I have failed to convey my message, as you chose to take a part of the whole message personally than discuss what I wrote about in the original thread. With others.. it seems to be coming across just fine as they approach it with an even mind and don't take me concluding my business with LSD & Ego personally.

Right now, what you said is just a claim. A very unjustified and uncalled for one that you obviously had no grounds to make.

Well I guess if they are saying it out loud and not in their minds anymore then they have, but who would ever know for sure? Who could be the judge of that? Why even bother to look for one or be one unless you're just trying to feed your own ego with more insecurities to think about?

Peace out
:cheers2:

 

I have to agree with 3xi that it was silly to say youve found your conclusion, but neither side requires anymore justification - We all have to pose thoughts confidently to grasp them best. If sw00sh found a conclusion then he found his conclusion. if he said he never needed any more, or acted like he found a holy answer, then he would deserve the 3xi-bitching.

 

i will ask you again...

 

oh brother.

 

lol he will keep asking until you tell him you have it all figured out so that he can say 'youre an idiot' and then if you said 'actually ive got nothin figured out' he can say 'aha see i told you'

 

absolutely. heh heh. that's about the depth of it. always looking to win a debate and claim some victory for lsd and "team ego". the irony is quite funny.

 

Is the irony simply funny? Or is it also necessary? Sure this entire thread can be understood to contain nothing more at face value than feed for our ego's. But it is by discussing this state of the parasitic ego that has helped people since forever to be more aware of themselves and open up to change.
For most people, yea it is true that judgement and preaching comes from the mind and is not concerned immediatley with how the words are recieved. By for people who have seen the truth, the judgement and preaching come from the heart and is interpreted by other ego's as a threat and therefor rejected.
Steelah your post was a nice contribution and pointing out what you perceive to be a fact. But by adding your last sentence about it being funny, you move into ridicule rather than pure open observation and you align yourself with the ranks that you condemn. People need to stop being so frightened with the ego and stop being so obsessed with getting rid of it. You cant exist in a human body/mind without it, so your only hope is to learn and be aware of it's motives.

 

^^^ thanx relayer,

honestly i care about swooosh and i dont want to see him limit himself in such a way. all through our life we are learning and growing. conclusions are for science and i dont care much for science.

i would never come to a conclusion with who my wife is because every day i learn something new about her and every day she's growing and changing because thats what people do. also i would never draw conclusions about myself as that would limit who i am as i change, adapt, learn and grow.

 

No passive aggressiveness here. Just a pure will to make the truth known in all my points.

"so you have everything about lsd and the ego figured out then?"


Did I ever start with this thread saying I knew everything about LSD and the Ego or that I had "everything" figured out about either of the two? No, I didn't mean it literally like that when I said I am concluding my business with the two, I mean I'm done caught up in the works in wondering about it. That would obviously be untrue seeing as most of the true science and nature behind LSD is practically unknown anyway. To make such a claim would have no grounds.. For you to assume such claim is practically ridiculous... especially after what I've tried to explain to you already countless times (and what I was explaining was how your claims are untrue, not attempting to explain the state of being).

I understand the concept of being itsself can not be explained in a way that requires thinking, but believe it or not, there are ways to reach to people and explain it in a way where they just 'understand it'. You just need to understand where they are coming from, see why they may be looking at certain things the ways they do and help them through all the kinks. I've always enjoyed teaching others. No judgement required there.

I've already disproved you in all ways possible, stop thinking you have something to hold onto with your point.

As far as ego's go, it is never said the ego can be loss or "lost", it is only said that a false ego can exist and therefore cause disillusion... disillusion first coming from any form of fear that started gripping the direction of your life or "true ego (or whatever state is opposite of the false ego)" from the start. The thoughts the emotions of fear caused constantly change while the emotion of fear will always be the same, making thoughts of fear just keep getting worst and worst until your gripped with the fear until you can not see the "Truth" behind where it began and therefore may attempt to seek one when there is none really; you just let your thoughts tell you who you are and you started to believe them. They are called "Your thoughts" from somebody elses point of view. Notice how you possess them? Not the other way around.

Your false ego creates an image of perfect and you will try your entire life to meet that image until you realize that that image was taught to you and not yourself, but others collective images of perfection that you adopted from the people around you (even with spiritual texts some people create an image from them and that right there stops them from every reaching the spiritual texts intent and motive: To make you live in complete joy). Notice how practically nobody is thereselves in this world? They created their life into the hell they learned as kids by living in their own sins and judging themselves over and over again with the same problems. There's no need to create the "Reality/Judge" and "Self/Victim" in your mind. WE WOULDNT NEED TO JUDGE IF WE WOULD JUST ACCEPT THE WAY THINGS ARE INDEFINITELY. WE JUDGE WHEN WE DONT LIKE THE WAY SOMETHING IS (and just because we learned how that something should BE), THAT RIGHT THERE IS IMMEDIATE DENIAL OF THE NOW, and always will be. And with no judging nobody would be spreading personal emotion posions and vibes to the other constantly all day making this exist. The reality you believe in terms of right and wrong will just make the mind a victim of it's own taught-judgement when you feel you aren't living up to this type of reality you were taught how to live in. And your mind will probably try to live and come up with whatever it can once a good ray of light gets put into it. It happens to us all many times before we achieve our personal forms of enlightenment.

When we speak in truth and say what we mean all the time, there is no need for guilt or blame, as your word becomes impeccable. There will be no more room for assumptions when you become impeccable with your word, no time to lose your sight in the grips of a negative emotion, you will always work with what you know. Guilt or blame comes from when we feel as though we didn't do our best or feel as if we could of done better, though if we understand the best is all we can ever do in every moment, and that that best can change from time to time and from new understanding and awareness to the next, there is nobody or anything to blame or feel guilty about. I personally feel as I did my best 3xi, and will always try for you, even you do not do the same.

There's always hope, just remember the ego loves uncertainy, dodge it when it's being held onto. Practice makes perfect, to learn everything you knew took some type of practice and rememberance and repetition. Ofcourse breaking all the negative mind cycles won't be a one day effort, but a reasonable goal indeed that you can always do right Now.

Peace
Sw0o0sh

 

relayer, of course it's just a little wink at ridicule. lighten up! wouldn't you agree that we all need a little harmless poke every now and again to help us to reflect on our actions? my wife pokes me every day. and many days i even thank her for it because she's right on the button! and here's a little "love poke" at you my friend... sometimes you confuse being a "moderator" with being a "holy preacher". but i still adore you for it because i know it comes from a loving and caring place! so no harm, no foul, right? go ahead, give me a little poke if you want. don't be shy... here, i'll do it for you... just by writing this post to you i have now taken on the role of being mr. judgmental egohead and holy preacher myself! heh heh. see, the irony can be quite "funny" in many ways. lol. it's all in the personal interpretation. stepping back a little whilst trying not to take ourselves and others quite so seriously can actually be a very positive thing. so i say "cheers" to a little honest, healthy "ridicule" and "self-ridicule" every now and then. :cheers2: and peace to all!

 

swoosh, the title for this thread is... "The EGO & LSD, I've found my conclusion" ,, if you found your conclusion then you know all there is to know!

if you are going to use words, make sure you understand what they mean, otherwise how can you be sure you are getting your message across!

 

I think we all just need to remember happiness is the way, there's no way to it, no way to understand it. And that's all the nowness could ever try and explain.

 

:cheers2:
Though I dont think I actually give a shit about any of you or this forum enough to confuse my minor role of deleting spam with speaking what I have experienced Fair enough though, perhaps all of us need to lighten up
Namaste

 

this thread is full of ego and suck.