The human

See the thing is Shapey, I think we are just have karmic disposition which makes us aware of certain things and blind to other things.
I've never smoked DMT, yet since childhood I've seen the unity in nature. As I grow older I see more and more deeper into how everything is working, and it becomes more complicated and frustrating because we all see it in our own way, and it can only be shared through love as words and similar thoughts fail to convey the true sensation we all talk about.
The sound Om is still far, far away from being grasped by most people, and science is only in the last few decades suggesting theories that barely scratch the surface of what Om is.
It can not be felt, yet it can not be seperated from us. That is the problem, and as is said, Those who talk dont know, those who know dont talk.
Yet for reasons of personal satisfaction, we cant help but go on and on about that which nobody knows.
The eternal mystery is so simple, it is us who view it as complex and something to be worked out, rather than just flow with it.
God bless.

 

First came life, then came communication, then came ignorance, then came boundaries, then came questioning, then came contentment, then came death.

 

Ok, the night held many theory's for me. I believe that I am a spirit, or a consciousness. I (spirit) am part of a universal entity, this entity ties into all of the these things, Om (which I have little understand of), God, energy, and every possible explanation for the existence of spirit, all of us are one, we are all spirits that inhabit human bodies... for what reason I do not know possibly for lack of better things to do possibly for recreation.

The human ego that exists within all of our bodies is the result of evolution, it is what all of those high speed electrical collusions going on in the human brain are the activity of the ego. The ego has one purpose, to survive. The ego is what tells you the body you inhabit is hungry, it's what makes the heart beat, it is the machine that drives the organism.

The ego and our consciousness work simultaneously, the conscious powers an actions that you make since it has more power than the ego....

I will continue this later, I would love feedback (just quote me at the top of the post).

 

Unless you're being extremely psychophysical I don't see how your response is relevant to.... anything? I'm sorry if I seem to be an asshole I just fail to find meaning behind your post.

 

I think animal (mamal) consciousness is very similar to ours. They just spend more time in their present moment, and think about less things. Animals can hold a few basic notions fresh in their minds for a short time. Mostly however, they are conscious like a child - distractable by each moment, any stimulation. Not necessarily so hyperactive or actually active though.

But human thought can deal with many more thoughts and abstract notions, and can turn their focus not only to teh world around them but also to the thoughts or feelings they have about it. But the actual experience is basically the same for the mammals

 

So are we, we are just more saturated with memory and used to safe enviorments that we dont flinch at every external stimuli. More or less jaded, one could argue.

 

This is base form of existence. Everything in existence from the smallest particle in matter, to bugs, to people, to animals, to plants, to mushrooms, to the planet, to the solar system, to the big bang and the edge of universe either is this base form, or it is some altered subset of this base form. Note: Colors, polarity and exact curvature of flow may vary, or have multiple variations combined. The image is still just metaphor.




For the question, how did form which is different from this come to be different? Because it wanted to.

It started going in the direction of human form first with this http://www.energymedresearch.com/sitebuilder/images/Universal_Mind_Lattice_1981ed2-193x375.jpg
then with this http://www.rainewalker.com/alexgrey.jpg

 

You don't mean to be an asshole but your aware you may be coming off as one? That's real nice, thx for taking the time to rephrase. I think your one rule may have threw me off.

And I'll try it again.

First came it, then came consciousness, then came communication through labeling, then came questions through insecurity, then came boundaries of right and wrong, then death.

Seem's better now in a way. And I'd like to believe my statement is at least somewhat relevant to "The Human". Just my idea of how things became more and more complex yet into a chaotic and destructive manner.

Peace:cheers2:

 

that went about 5 miles over my head.

 

No your statement is fully relevant to the discussion of the human , so what's "it" what's the consciousness in your eyes? if you like go further into detail about these things, as i would love to hear your views of the world and what we are .

 

haven't been to the forums for a few days and wanted to see if there was anything new in this thread. this image is beyond description. I think it goes 5 miles over my head too just because it is such an accurate commentary on the cyclical nature of existence and how each output manifestation is re-consumed by the center with greater experience and more genuine individuation each time, to fuel the next round so to speak. It applies on infetismally small scales and infinitely large ones.

ps it's also stunningly/eerily similar to many mechanisms i've seen on acid when i close my eyes. except in that case I take the place as one of the little blue travelers rather than observing them as an outsider. we would all notice our place in that system if not for the ego

 

Well now that we got the physical nature down to a figure, let's check out the human ego!

 

I like this interpretation of the Ego...

 

I hate the ego with a passion . It consumes you and makes you say and do retarded things. It creates false truths and can really fuck with the human mind.

 

there is no answer to it. it's all just theoretical. so why waste any time thinking about it? and why does it matter how we got here? it only matters that we are "here". now.

 

what's with all of these giant signature pics? they just seem to be getting bigger and bigger!

 

sorry , it can't get any smaller I tried.

And why shouldn't it matter how we got here? Nothing matters NOTHING MATTERS. So why not think about it Idk about yours but my ego wishes to learn so let em learn.

 

thats one way of looking at it.

But for example, why should we try to study the past behaviors of beasts? So that we can avoid their beastliness. If we can study the past of man, we can avoid the true beastliness of ourselves - our nature, is it divine or is it mundane? is it determined or free? We cant tell this from a snapshot of the world, but from its existance across time. So at some point, the first man existed. He was either the first creature with a human mind, or the first creature to have a mind that is enough like the human mind to be classified as the same. Actually It was likely a woman who had the first consciousness, for consciousness is ultimately passive. Her sons would have shaped the world.

 

you will always be trapped in "theoretical hell" on that topic. it's a dead end. there are no definitive answers and never will be. like a dog forever chasing it's tail. the moment is all that counts. liberation and freedom is found in the moment.

 

sorta like saying this whole forum is pointless - getwith it - you cant exist purely in the moment or you would be the one who looks like a dog chasing its tail. we spend most of our time considering moments, because to be in the moment is so easy, but to be aware of what came before and comes after a moment is something that we try to get a grip of