Less pregnant then initially thought

I am less then ten weeks and two days which was the original...weeks pregnant.

Now I am 8 weeks and 6 days. Kinda stinks.

 

That's actually GOOD, believe it or not. That allows you more time to bake. If they'd stuck by the 10 weeks along, you could have been forced to deliver (by induction or c-section *shudders) an "overdue" baby that would barely be to the due date, let alone overdue.

 

I am kinda disappointed because I mean I am so excited about being pregnant and I've already gained 7 pounds... I am just bummed.

I know this is the one time to rejoice in weight gain and I am being so healthy I can't stand 7 lbs already

 

the weight gain is so hard... i did pretty good my first trimester, gained like 3 pounds, but when the second trimester hit i just started gaining like crazy without even realizing it. Are you eating because you're nauseous? my doctor said that was probably why i gained in the beginning, but now i'm not nauseous anymore. I've gained about 25 lbs so far and it's definitely not all belly.

with not being as far along as you thought, just think that you have more time to prepare i know it must kinda stink though... how's your pregnancy going so far?

 

i agree with Holly.... while it might not seem like great news, it actually works in your favor.

I wouldn't be worried about the weight gain.... it is all a part of making a healthy baby...

 

i was just thinking, you're probably slim enough to be able to handle a large weight gain and be perfectly healthy, especially since you're eating really healthy, so you shouldn't worry about it too much. i had a lot of people tell me from the beginning to watch my weight (well everybody except the doctor) so i guess i'm paranoid...

 

Don't worry about your weight Hiro...
I gained 65lbs for my first, and about the same for the second one. It sucked, but it did go away eventually...
I had two very healthy babies, 8lbs and 8 1/2lbs...and they were both two weeks early, so imagine the size of them if they'd stayed in there...

(I knew my exact due date because in those days you could set your watch by my period...haha)

 

my mom was 28 weeks wwhen she had me and i was 5 lbs 12 ozs big premee and she gained 70 for me and for my sister she went full term and my sis was 10 12 mom gained 65 for her .

on another note my hubbys ex gained 95 lbs with his lil girl who was 11 lbs and she lost it quite fast it all depends i think on how you think and your matabolism.

 

You know ... have you ever considered that your comments are kinda negative towards woman who have had cesarian deliveries?

to determine if the baby will be 2 weeks is overdue is at this stage is impossible, everyone knows that the due dates can change often as the pregnancy progresses ... right now her baby is barely an embryo let alone a fetus .... it wont make a hair's difference near the end whether she is 8 or 10 weeks now ...and especially wouldn't result in an induction or cesarian *shudder*

the doctor induces her at 38 weeks as opposed to waiting it out ??? Then he/she is an idiot !!!(Unless there are complications during the delivery) Cesarians are not done just because "its time to deliver"

Hippyfreek, your flippant comments are the kind of interpretation that make women feel as though they have failed when it is neccessary to deliver by cesarian BIRTH . :toetap05:

Congrats and good luck Hiro.

 

WarmHandedCanadian, this country has a cesarean epidemic, well above what the World Health Organization recommends, and well above other industrilized nations. Women need support regardless of how they give birth, but c-sections can be traumatic to women, and some women do not believe they are birth but extraction and they will need to process that. Some women are fine with cesareans.

Here is my thought, and it's 3 am so its not a very coherent one:

In a country with the majority of c-sections being medically unnecessary, it makes it hard for women who genuinely needed them. It demeans their experience. When childbirth becomes an emergency, an emergency is easily overlooked. By that I mean, a woman could have had an extremely traumatic birth, or a birth with severe complications, but rather than finding the sisterhood she needs, she becomes just a statistic, just another number. Personally, if I had a medically unnecessary cesearian, it might not make me doubt my body. It might make another woman doubt her body though. And those who medically needed them? How are they going to the support they need, or to voice these concerns?

Its not about taking away their experience. It's about making birth both mother and baby friendly and safe. Keeping emergencies as emergencies, and allowing women the support they need to process and overcome them when they occur.

Working in the birth field can be extremely frustrating, because we see this everyday. And then we see people who believe we are being judgmental, or excluding of some women. It's unfortunate. I am not excluding anyone, but I believe this field needs much, much healing. And by healing the cesarean epidemic, we can better offer ourselves to the healing of women who truly needed them.

Sorry if this makes no sense! It's late..

 

Advaya, it makes perfect sense to me...because it's an equal to what I went through as a mother that had to formula-feed out of complete necessity.

Women who seriously need c-sections have my full support. Whether they have android pelvis, placenta previa, or any other myriad of real reasons to necessitate it, it's traumatic. It's major surgery. It's not ideal. It's tough. I understand.

But advaya is right. This country, nay, all of western society, has a c-section epidemic. We're losing the oxytocin-bonds that help to truly establish mother-baby relationships. We're warping the body images of our women, and thus our daughters. And we're letting a cold, calculating corporate society dictate to us how our births go. C-sections are routinely performed nowadays for "overdue", "extra large babies", "breech", "failure to progress", and other silly reasons. Lots of breech babies will turn during labor. Frank breech babies can be vaginally delivered if a mother can move around. I've heard of size 2, 100lb women delivering 12 lb kids. And overdue just stinks of "You're interrupting my golfing schedule". Those reasons are just stinky, all around.

And I don't mean any offense to c-section mommas. We're all in this together. My anger and scorn is directed more at a medical establishment that disrespects the beauty and complexity of natural birth, the amazing process that Mother Nature gave to women. which we are losing. And it saddens me.

So I didn't mean any offense. But nowadays, mothers do need every bit of firepower to fight against the everlooming threat of a c-section they probably don't need.

 

Cesarean section is the delivery of a baby by surgery. You are taking the importance of the mother out of the birthing process by saying things like "shudder" when you are discussing birth by cesarean.

Unfortunately some women cannot squat in the bushes to have their babies.




This picture reminds me of the lack of respect that woman who have had to have cesarean births get from the mommies who are squatters and pushers.

So yeah.

Your cesarean emidemic has nothing to do with the emotional side of childbirth and your fearmongering advice.

"
Why Might I Have a C-Section?


Your health care provider may suggest that you have a c-section for one or more of these reasons:

• You've already had a c-section in another pregnancy or other surgeries on your uterus.
• Your baby is too big to pass safely through the vagina.
• The baby's buttocks or feet enter the birth canal first, instead of the head. This is called a breech position.
• The baby's shoulder enters the birth canal first, instead of the head. This is called a transverse position
• There are problems with the placenta. This is the organ that nourishes your baby in the womb. Placental problems can cause dangerous bleeding during vaginal birth.
• Labor is too slow or stops.
• The baby's umbilical cord slips into the vagina, where it could be squeezed or flattened during vaginal delivery. This is called umbilical cord prolapse.
• You have an infection like HIV or genital herpes.
• You're having twins, triplets or more.
• The baby has problems during labor that show it is under stress, such as a slow heart rate. This is sometimes called “fetal distress.”
• You have a serious medical condition that requires intensive or emergency treatment (such as diabetes or high blood pressure).
• The baby has a certain type of birth defect. "

I do not see anything mentioned in this medical article about a 2 week difference in due date resulting in a cesarean.

Yes I have HAD 2 of them *shudder*

If Hiro needs a cesarean I'm sure she will mention to her doctor that the due date has previously been changed by 2 weeks.

 

Do you see how saying Cesareans are, more or less, no big deal you could hurt women who felt they are? There are whole communities for women to process birth trauma. Any birth can be traumatic, but surgical birth especially (whether c-section or instrumental delivery). I am glad it was not for you, I do not know the reasons you had them, but I know if a woman really felt she needed to talk about her traumatic birth, she might not feel comfortable doing so with you.

FYI, failed induction is a huge cause of cesareans, and with inductions so common, with little medical need, it is why it is to her benefit her due date was changed. She is more likely to go into labor on her own prior to an induction, or have an induction when her body is more ready for labor.

Please keep in mind that fetal distress is often caused by the very birth practices meant to prevent it. Electronic fetal monitoring requires you stay stationary, while mobility is the best thing possible in labor. The medication used to induce labor makes contractions much harder to deal with, and often leads to epidurals. Epidurals are directly linked to c-sections for the same reason EFM is. You can't move, you can't feel to push (episiotomy anyone?) The baby's heart rate can indicate distress simply from laying on your back, with your blood vessels compressed.

The reasons for cesareans are not black and white. At the time, they may be, especially if you are not educated or informed. It's only in retrospect that you can see maybe it was not medically necessary, or maybe it was medically necessary AND medically induced.

One of the things I learned in school and believe is of utmost importance, is to realize that medically necessary cesareans and just necessary are not the same thing. Whether it was medically necessary or not, at the time you felt it was necessary. That deserves honor, and respect. Respect is so severely lacking in all birth. You might not make the same choices next time, you may have learned very painful lessons, but that birth deserves respect regardless. People do the best they can, at that time.

That picture is a good indication of birth in this country, period. I AM a birth professional, and I can say that the tools used to demonstrate vaginal births are no better. A box with a vagina to practice dilation estimation? Does box not have a negative connotation when referring to the vagina? I guess it's okay in the medical profession! A lone plastic pelvis to learn station? A headless, legless torso'd doll to learn to use forceps? The same doll has a removable stomach cover to aid in learning c-sections. That picture phased me little, because I have seen so much. Humanity needs to be in birth, but it needs to be in all birth. It's not as though it is only lacked in cesarean, by any means.

Everything I say can very easily be backed up with research. I have found that one of the best ways of defending what I say is to use the medical mainstream's own research against them. It usually is already.

 

I think hiro's thread is getting just off topic...I don't think it will help her to scare her.

Anyway, hiro...don't be discouraged about your due date, it will still go by fast.....

 

Yeah guys kinda deviating from the original topic, duke it out elsewhere.

I am almost twelve weeks now and have come to terms with it. The time is going by really fast... in another few weeks I can have the ultrasound.

I am still upset about all the weight gained but my mom took me shopping for maternity and non maternity clothes. I guess I am nervous about all the weight gain because I was real small beforehand and I am getting married in August and don't want to be a fatty...Mitten you had great sized babies... I am hoping for a healthy sized baby.

 

The Shape of a Mother.....

a friend of mine runs this site... might take a moment (or two or a lot) to browse through other women's stories....

my body will never be the body it was before I carried a child to well past full term... I honestly believe I gained close to 60 pounds...I don't know what my weight was before I got pregnant, I was quite slender, and I'm short, 5'3"... my last doctor's appointment, two weeks before I actually gave birth, I weighed 180 pounds...

my son came out 9 pounds and 9 ounces and HEALTHY as all get out....

I am WAY more proud of my body and what it can do than concerned with exactly how it looks now.... my body looks exactly like it should after carrying a baby, it is truly the shape of a mother.... and for that I am NOT ashamed....

 

I love that site! It's so inspiring.

 

Scarlett you find the most interesting sites!

I am small... not slender. I was 130 in December and I am 5'2''. I was too skinny. I believe that I started gaining before I was pregnant because I could never.... personally..... get pregnant and be healthy. So I gained about twenty pounds and since getting pregnant and have gained, gained, gained and I hate it.

I worked really hard to get to my small size in December. I know my body will never be the same but I am concerned that I won't lose the weight.... and will be big for a long time. I am sure I am worrying for nothing that things will be fine...

 

Try not to worry about not fitting back into your old clothes right away. That was something that really bothered me. I had a closet full of clothes and nothing to wear and it made me feel like crap.

Make sure you have some clothes that fit you as you are afterward. You'll feel a whole lot better about it until you can get back in shape.

 

I want to say congrats to you!!! I am so excited... and I am so sad about the way women feel about their weight and their bodies... don't worry about losing the weight later... just rejoice in the now, you will lose the weight, if you want help contact me, I am helping men and women to lose and maintain a healthy weight.

WHC, there are many things discussed in this forum that saddens me, about traumas expressed in my own story, that others take for granted or comment about ignorantly, however, I know that they are not doing it on purpose, and it is my issue with myself and my story that that makes me feel attacked or defensive, but before saying anything, I realize that it is no one's responsibility but my own to make me feel at peace with what I"ve gone through as a woman... as a gender, really as mothers we should respect the diversity and options of our feminitity and our legend equal pieces to the puzzle... it's not a football game, we are a part of the same team, we need to share our knowledge, our concerns, our thoughts, our prayers, our experiences, conclusions and build upon that... spread the story and help each other come up with the path each woman wants to take... and if someone doesn't end up taking the path they wanted to, we need to help them to discover the peace and the power in the struggle they had and then that needs to be placed on the foundation block and passed around as well...

it's not about your chapter, my chapter, her chapter... the labels of cesarean birth, homebirth, hospital birth, it's about the whole story. I'm soooo super sick of the arguing, and for what? If we would all stop being cowards, stop being afraid, and stop isolating ourselves and others, we could become a powerful community, using it's full potential in efficiency and we would have all the support we needed in each other to know that we don't need scientific studies, things on the news, and strangers, or near strangers to "help" us do what we were literally made to do.

There's so much hidden information, so many things that women, doctors and society as a whole, including midwives do not know about birth and the female body and it's processes, but what if we started teaching young girls what we know, our mothers, sisters, grandmothers, friends, other mothers we meet on the streets, our partners, brothers, fathers, all of this information would merge and become a lot less of a mystery, common knowledge, people wouldn't all of a sudden go to someone they never met before to tell them about their own bodies...

okay, end rant.

I love you all and congrats again hiro!