The US government is the enemy

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by illumincoalitional, Jul 19, 2008.

  1. illumincoalitional

    illumincoalitional Member

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    The government is our enemy man, listen this whole financial aid they got for college kids man it's just for the middle class & uppers not for the people that really need it.

    Listen to some of the questions that they ask on the form, what school did your parents graduate from? Apparently if you had parents & they graduated you get more money, what about all those crack babies or poor people that had some smacked up parents that never went to school let alone graduated.

    Also if your a young white guy that was born in this country your basically screwed for any benefits since there is aid for native Americans, African Americans, women, veterans & immigrates you being a white guy has to settle for the general all purpose loan that gives a minimal beneficiary percentage of your earnings so if you can't barely pay for rent or food say bye bye to ever going to college & getting a decent job.

    Did you know that even though you & I are paying city/gov/federal taxes to help pay for roads, police, & schools. That there is a law on the table for police that it's optional for them to show up at your door after phoning 911.

    A family from Ohio tried suing their city because the cops never showed up after reporting to 911 3 times that there daughter was being held against her will by a man that abducted her & sold her as a sex slave, they also gave the mans address, (they did get their daughter out after doing it them selves). They didn't win cuz on the bases that the police have an option to show up after receiving a 911 call.

    The south Koreans argued that the US government send them younger cows so they won't receive mad cow disease by eating older cows. the US government applied, guess whos receiving the old cows?

    A consul board member complain racism on another board member after that board member describing his cities financial department as being a black hole. He was soon after force to apologize.

    We're just leting the politicians get away with this. Burn down their homes & take back what they stoled so we can live just as good.
     
  2. Daksi

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    You're correct about the man, but aggression isn't the answer. The call to 'drop out' in the 60s and 70s was to personally abandon the establishment, and to build one's own life with principles and purpose. Aggression is the man's way, not the hippy's. :cool:
     
  3. illumincoalitional

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    Of course there should be aggression, it seems that aggression around here promotes any real change. The way the laws are designed protesting gets you no where, since you need to pay for a permit fee (many $1000+ for large groups 15+), in most cases the city sets you up in an area that is protest assessable (mainly out of the public eye) There are laws that forbid you to interrupt the public such as stopping someone walking down the street, blocking sidewalks, doorways & intersections. During the minutemen protest against illegal immigrates the city arrested the crowd for noise pollution which was on the cities law books.

    A heavy bomb on capital hill should easily do the trick. Maybe raiding the federal banks for my money would bring me content
     
  4. ChildoftheRisingSun

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    Crumble babylon!
    We don't need violence Gandhi freed India with peace =]
     
  5. illumincoalitional

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    Doesn't India have untouchables & rate their people by class just as the US is beginging to do.
     
  6. ChildoftheRisingSun

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    It wasn't Gandhi's idea and they have said goodbye to caste system atleast officially they have...
     
  7. imagical

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    fighting doesn't solve anything. violence is so not the answer.

    You should channel your anger into positive outlets. Instead of bitching about how middle class gets no financial aid for school, or about how the cops behave, GO AND DO SOMETHING! thats the only way things will get done! YOU have to point out to the government that something is awry. Contact your local representative and keep bugging them until you get the answer you want! And if they cant fix the problem, keep going higher and higher on the command chain....someone will eventually hear you!




    because as much as we hippies hate it, politics and politicians are here to stay...


    unless you guys wanna form a commune with me =oD
     
  8. ChildoftheRisingSun

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    I wanna form a commune with you be even ecovillage?
     
  9. imagical

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    let's do it!
     
  10. ChildoftheRisingSun

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    Wait untill Pete Townshed gives me keys to the magicbus i need it to fly over atlantic to you :)
     
  11. easy_rider69

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    So let me get this straight, (hypothetical situation) Some parents cruised through life doing nothing and now their kids are having financial troubles, gee I wonder why. And why is it any concern of the govt to help families who obviously didnt care to contribute to society in the first place? I would stop blaming the Govt and start blaming the obvious YOUR PARENTS.

    The obvious answer to the whole, " only natives, blacks, vets" get perks and not me is... Go enlist and become a vet, otherwise suck it up and quit complaining, you could be much much worse off.
     
  12. illumincoalitional

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    Dude shut up, the problem why the parents are on drugs are due to the government, since the government isn't doing their responsibility in taking care of the many drug cartels or pharmaceutical companies putting over the counter ingredients to make certain drugs, the result of the product being reached to the public in masses.

    There is a such thing of an indication. Anyway the puppet politicians are being paid off by the drug companies to do nothing. What happens, the poor guy lands up in prison so the government can have jobs or a dopy. It's all design so that we get screwed & they get richer.

    You're a fucking fool not to see that, you probably work for the government anyway so I'm just wasting my time.
     
  13. easy_rider69

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    Sorry i believe in survival of the fittest, If you are to stupid to get hooked on certain drugs, pharmaceutical or not the the problem is you, not your government.

    And i dont work for your government, hell i dont even live in your country.
     
  14. illumincoalitional

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    I'm glad you don't live in my country you bitter no body.

    This affects all of us, since it down grads society, drug addicts need money, they'll steal, prostitute, commit crimes, credit fraud, and these factors make the cost go up. Stores charge more because of theft, higher taxes for more police. Since the countless hype up from cost makes production higher, cost more inflated, exports, shipping the cost to make the product, national economy all conflict onto the living conditions where you live as well.

    All the while the rich fill their pockets very nicely.

    So don't tell me it's just other peoples problems.
     
  15. imagical

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    where's the magic flying bus when you need it...
     
  16. easy_rider69

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    So your answer to the increase in crimes due to drug companys, is to become a criminal and cause more violence in turn. lol. You make no sence man. I would think a guy ready to burn someones house down would be all for criminal activities.
     
  17. Astrolog

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    Everything has sense what illumincoalitional http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=4540919" \l "post4540919[​IMG]http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=4540919" \l "post4540919said here. Government of USA is not a crap full of criminals who might not be judged until they die. They are guilty of crime on Iraqi nation. Put that article into the Google translator: http://wyborcza.pl/1,76498,5470326,Imperium_przegrywa_z_chaosem.html
    Today it is main article in main Polish newspaper. That tragedy is happening right now.
    ( It's about slaves from Asia building bunker in capital of Babylon: Bagdad)

    Israel flag is just beside US flag everywhere, Palestinian country is occupied as a Tibet by China. ONZ created legal concentration camps in Darfur for Palestinian people, constantly killed by Somalians - right now.
    When president of Iran said about conditions in Palestinian refuge camp and said 'if that is not concentration camp Auschwitz wasn't a concentration camp either' - your newspapers printed "Mahmud Ahmadinejad is denying Auschwitz'. What a propaganda! Shity.

    WTC 7 was demolished. 20 people attached explosives into the main 15 pillars, there was evacuation, firemans shouted 'we're pulling it down!', Just while after owner of the building said that it was decided to pull it down.
    But when it was officially negated everybody took it. Government cannot lie, even if they said 'the sun is cold' everybody believes. Why? Because majority do not want to see the truth. Truth is so scary that it is freezing the blood.
    Gun marked is expanding, by antimissile shield project they quarreled and totally disabled Polish government! Since two weeks we have big chaos in our government because of that ridiculous conceptions to place alien forces from USA just on the Russian border. Because of that today Russia sold a loads of weapons to Venezuela. Loads. They are terrorists! There should be strict law about that what can be secret what can be not. Now everything that supports terrorism is a secret. Without terrorism the gun barons would stay without work. So they support terrorism and fighting it. War creates war. War generates the profits.
    Not a thieves? Not? So why I say on the Blues Festival soldiers employing new drunken boys into the army? How such can be legal? It's against human right's to organize recreation on the pacifists festival. But you don't get it. You don't get why marihuana should be legal all over the world, but gun market should be banned.
    Illegal marihuana it is more people to be oppressed, traced and punished. Against human rights! It is generating more need for guns.
    Grandfather of G. W Bush was a thief that was cooperating with NAZIs, selling them guns and sending money. Read about it. His brother is probably guilty of putting explosives on WTC 7 and also probably also 1 & 2. Pentagon was hit by long distance missile not by plain.
    Thousands of Iraqi people are now in jails without hearing any purpose, again against human rights.
    US army is inventing and creating fighting robots to assimilate human rase.
    Check the game Fallout 2 -> it's the vision of future if thise screws will still will be in power. They should sit in jail right now.
     
  18. easy_rider69

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    Man i dont know what the hell you are trying to say, all i got out of that is a bunch of conspiracy theorys with no hard facts. Your mad the government is selling guns, so if the us government decides to stop selling weapons to third world nations or any other country at that, should they also stop trading all together with them? And all that legalized dope would do is turn North america into holland, an over sensative liberal country in which any terrrorist could come into and change for their likeing. Holland 30 years ago was nice, but now its ghetto after ghetto of non smoking hard minded muslims with an agenda to make the western world theirs and conform everybody to their barbaric religion, and the dutch government sat there and let it happen because they were too afraid to tarnesh their oh so liberal image. But now look at hollands immigration policys since they took a bit more conservative approach to the whole thing. They realized that there almost isnt any dutch culture in the netherlands, and that something must be done to preserve their culture.

    Im gonna need more then "go play a video game, it tells the real truth" to soak up anything you just said.
     
  19. BabelinShambles

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    They do not give a shit about the heart of America - the middle or lower class family trying to make a living. Today our economy is in a recession, thanks to the governments stupidity and their non-regulation stance on the corporate world. Our government has become an indifferent system totally out of touch with "The American People" - Bushs favorite meaningless label. Our government is literally fed money by the corporate world to keep their SPECIAL INTERESTS a top priority; our country has become the land of the freely indebted, all at the hands of rich, greedy, corporate demons. "In God We Trust" ??? more like "In the name of greedy, special interests We Trust".

    Fuck our government - Americans need to take back their civil liberties that have been taken away by the Bush Invalids, all in the name of protecting us from terrorism.... If Americans strive for peace and sustainability, we wont have to worry about Ideologies destroying us, there will be no need to "protect us" from terrorists!
     
  20. easy_rider69

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    Man it is so funny hearing americans complain about freedom and civil liberties, Do you guys not realize you live more free than any other country in the world? I could only wish to have as many freedoms that you guys so quickly take for granted.
     

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