It is you that keeps balance, or not. Karma is just the way of keeping a record of it. It helps you to illustrate the deeds of your life. x
Karma doesn't have to rob Peter to pay Paul. Karma only affects people, not nations. The "karma" of a nation still goes back to individual actions There is no equilibrium except in the eye of the beholder as both equlibrium and chaos are concepts and not actual states of being. x
But surely the positive and negative actions that create karma are also subjective in the same way that the concepts of chaos and equilibirum are, the actions real karma relates back to scripture, right? :toetap05:
There isn't any scripture for me. There isn't any positive and negative. There isn't any karma either. There is only awareness. The formless God. Karma only has power over you as an individual soul immersed in the game here. It means nothing "out there". The ideas of positive and negative belong to your human identity. In the higher realms, it all blends together and is seen as a singular source of all things rather than competing forces. What you do with your little spark of godstuff is up to you. Just acknowledge it's ALL you before you start. Once you subscribe to duality, you become your creation. x
Sorry, but ... Karma IS action. Action does not create Karma. It (sanskrit: karma, pali: kamma) is just another word for Action. Individuals create kamma. It is not something that just arises spontaneously without a cause. Kamma, like Xexon indicated, is not created by a nation, or a country, but by the individuals who constitute the nation or country. Kamma creates reality and is the basis for our perception of reality. It has existence only as long as one perpetuates it. Stop perpatuating it and Kamma ceases. HTML:
There is balance, but it is not like the way you say it is. The balance is like this : For every positive good deed you do, there is a good result. This will create sattva feelings- in other words- wholesome feelings. Don't you feel good when you do a good deed? go volunteer for a good cause, or say "thank you" whenever you can. Feel grateful for what has been given to you by your parents, by your ancestors, by your family , by the creator, God. However, be aware that every negative action you perform, will also bear an unpleasant fruit. You can call this rajasic or tamasic fruit... fruit that is unwholesome due to passions or ignorance. So if you smoke, you will destroy your lungs, if you eat alot of cholesterol, you will clog your arteries, if you drink alcohol , you will cause liver damage. Similarly, if you say divisive things, things that will cause harm to another, things that have no other purpose but to hurt , then the results of these actions will come back to bite you, whether in this life or the next.
Well even the higher realms, devas and devatas and such other realms are also subject to the same laws as you and me. This is why they too suffer! - for references to their suffering- read the hindu scriptures! They may however have more freedoms, they may enjoy greater benefits due to their past good karma, but they are living in the samsara too, therefore, they too are subject to birth and death.
Yes, this is the actual definition. Thanks to Darrell for clarification. Also in response to xexon - reactions to actions affect groups of people such as nations just as they affect the individual. Balance does exist in the world, and is not only in the eye of the beholder. Otherwise, nature itself would descend into chaos, rather than the exquisite order we now percieve (if we have our eyes open).
Sigh....... Check out the story of the churning of the ocean to produce Amrita. Gods (order) on one side, demons (chaos) on the other.
Kamma is also more than just another word for Action. It also means the results of the action. So, in all actuality, Kamma (Karma) covers both Action and Result, Cause and Effect. Mostly the result or effect part of Kamma will result in more action, which results in more result. Much the same way that E=mc^2 represents a myriad of other equations (boiled down to one equation), Kamma represents action and result, and the perpetuation of action with results until extinguished. Hence the phrase, "It is your Karma," meaning the results being experienced from [immediate or distant] past actions. I was just clarifying Kizen's statement that Action creates Karma, when Kamma and Action are the same thing (including its result). HTML:
I like to imagine a car wheel in space, once set into motion, it continues to move effortlessly. The cause gives rise to a result, the result gives rise to another cause and that gives rise to another result... and it keeps going and going and going like a duracell battery
The reactions are simply more action. Karma seems to pertain to the entire field of action, including reactions, results etc.
