My 5-meO-DMT looks odd

my order of dmt arrived, and i am belssed with a 500mg baggie of it.

however, it is a tan/brown sandy colour and very different from the white crystals on erowid.

i have attached an image, could you confirm if this is normal?

also, how would i best store it (plastic baggie in fridge ok?)


PS: will test now, report back soon.

 

that's exactly how mine looked
trust me it is very strong
keep it in the freezer
you can add sillica paks to it as well to keep out moisture

 

thanks for confirmation. Unfortunately my test was a failure for several resons:

1) no scale meant taking a minute amount that was likely only about 1-3mg for trial.
2) forgot my pipe, so resorted to retarded metal spoon under funnel method
3) dmt melted, but very little turned to smoke, but rather hardened as blackish puddle (roughly 1/2 my starting size)

however, i feel as though my last 30min of regular actions afterwards are slightly different (likely placebo tho)

im pretty sure some did properly vaporize however, as i got the slightest taste and odor of a burnt plastic (but in an oddly good way? kind of like its a plastic that smells semi-nice when burned?)

 

Most of the synthetic 5-meo-dmt I've seen has been yellowish tan colored crystals. What you have should be fine, most of the time you can't really tell by the color or texture... because these can vary greatly depending on how it was synthesized and recrystallized.

Test some out and tell us how it went! 5-meo-dmt is some crazy potent stuff, so weigh it out carefully.

 

the stuff you have is the hcl form of 5-meo-dmt not the freebase (smokeable) form. if you try smoking this stuff it will melt and then burn and turn into that nasty dark crusty stuff you described. the only stuff the salt form is good for is snorting (which sucks compared to smoking).

hope you didn't order too much.

 

If it is, in fact, 5-MeO-DMT HCl, you could always turn it into a freebase. It should be as simple as dissolving it in a tiny bit of water, basifying it to maybe around 11 or 12, extracting it with a bit of non-polar solvent (naptha, xylene or DCM or something like that, you'd have to look into it) then evaporating your solvent. Since you're starting with pure 5-MeO-DMT, you should get most of it back. Do keep in mind, though, that freebase 5-MeO-DMT should be a lot lighter than the HCl, so although it may seem like you lost some, that isn't necessarily the case.

 

You can try contacting the vendor to have them verify which form it is in. Also, 5-meo-dmt freebase is not soluble in water, while 5-meo-dmt hcl is solube in water. That would be one way to check.

The vendor should clearly state which form the product is in, that way the buyer is fully aware of what they are purchasing in the first place.

Also, 5-meo-dmt hcl can be used sublingually as well.

 

there's only one vendor i know that sells the freebase form at the moment. alot of vendors don't even know what they are selling. i know for a fact though that the vendor you got that from only sells the hcl form (i emailed them about it).

 

shite....somewhere along the lines i got a different impression. (though i know the site which sells freebase [3 letters])

so....how would i proceed with an hcl salt? either in terms of snorting or converting to freebase (<--preferred)

also, does conversion lose mass? and will smoking work at all?

EDIT: sent email to seller requesting confirmation, and also "learned" from a bluelight thread that the HCL salt version would presumably be unable to crystalize, and would remain a goo (which my stuff isnt)

 

Just convert it to a freebase and then you can smoke it.

 

Yes, converting it to a freebase will make it lose mass.

What I would do if I were you is dissolve the gram (you said you had a gram, right?) in just enough water for it to dissolve. Put the powder in a shot glass and squirt distilled (it MUST be distilled) water into it by the eye dropper full, stirring after each dropper is added. Once it's all dissolved, add a tiny bit of NaOH (lye, caustic soda) at a time and stir until the pH is around 11 or 12. Test with pH papers. It needs to be pretty damn basic. Then put about 50-75 ml (just an estimation, you may need more or less) of naptha onto the solution. Shake it and then let it separate a few times. I'd leave it for about 4 hours, shaking every 30 minutes. If you get an emulsion, let it settle out. Once this is done, either siphon off the naptha or use a seperatory funnel to get rid of the water layer (but don't throw it out yet. If you happen to fuck something up, this is where your alkaloids are going to be) and then evaporate the naptha off. You may want to try to add more naptha and do another pull, just to make sure you get everything. You also may want to put the 5-MeO-DMT in a coffee filter (after it's dried) and run some freezing cold janitorial strength (10%) ammonia over it to pull out any extra lye that may be in there. Just a few (maybe 20-30) ml will do.

 

hmm...sounds simple, yet still more work than i was anticipating.

any easier methods, or advice for insufflating in the meantime? I attempted to snort a small amount (likely 3-5mg) last night, but felt no real effects other than a slight nasal numbness and minor irritation in the cavity.

when insufflated, must it reach a certain area of the nostril, or merely enter in for absorbtion?

 

ran second trial of both smoking and snorting the substance just now.

snorted (with help of short straw) roughly 5-7mg relatively deep into the nasal cavity. this resulted in mildly painful/irritating nasl drip, but absolutely no effects of the drug after 10 minutes.

smoked roughly 3-6mg within double bed of wild dagga (crappy ethno-herb with no effect) after deternmining insuffluation was a failure. This resulted once again in absolutely no effects, except an initial feeling of having taken a more "special" hit than usual.

why is my drug not working, even nasally? At most, I am experiencing weak placebo effects and im becoming discouraged...

 

do not waste your time with "too small" doses my monkeys experience with this substance is such that even he considers 20 mg snuffed light
and as far as "immersive experiences" my monkey says that he feels a deep rush akin to "rolling" and freebasing cocaine when describing to 5 meo dmt.there is nothing to fear but fear itself with this "benign" chem. My chimp also reports that a 2 to 1 mix of 5 meo dmt and 5 meo mipt is a great combo. Smoking requires patience and a large pile
50 mg will give you a lift from this hcl form.but nothing like snuffing....enjoy !be brave!

ps do not snuff too deeply it needs to "stick" to your mucosa

 

ok, thanks for some snufing advice, since its hard to find infor on its correct procedure.

however, i am beginning to doubt that it is a salt for several reasons:

1) most internet reports use the freebase, and it must be more common
2) the melting point of the hcl is much higher than what i believe my meo ws melting at
3) even at the low dose, i should have felt SOMETHING from my snuffing it.

I have done a quick lazy-man approach to testing and put roughly 20-30mg with approx 5mg of NaOH in just enough water to dilute both. The water shifted to a slightly tinted colour and has been left to sit for 5 min. I will then refrigerate or freeze if necessary to further seperate new forms

 

5 minutes isn't gonna cut it. Follow what I said or waste your shit, and you're gonna need pH papers.

 

i tried another attempt at vaporizing today in a glass bulb (im sorry for seeming tubborn) and managed to get a bulb full of dense smoke which i took in a single breath.

The hit sort of paralysed me and vuagely alered my vision, but that was it. Im fairly certain i took about a 6-7mg hit

 

Be stubborn all you want. I'm just trying to help you get something that'd be easier to smoke. Sounds like your shit may be cut or something.

BTW, I know I sound like a dick here, and I don't mean to.

 

you can still smoke the salt form it just sucks compared to the freebase form because you need more to get the same level of high and it ruins your pipe/bulb.

 

what the fuck is wrong with you? my monkey? go fuck yourself you mindless exploiter