A mans "new" roll...?

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by dltoken, Jul 16, 2008.

  1. dltoken

    dltoken Member

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    I have been thinking about the whole feminist movement lately... Although equality is great, why do so many woman out there expect to be wined and dined to make feel like a princess? Sure, I have been out of a 4 year relationship for 6 months, but I still can't stand the idea of girls expecting to have drinks bought for them. Not all women do, but some. And every time I experience this, I find it to be so distasteful and disrespectful to women as a whole.

    Does anyone else see where I'm coming from? Why don't women feel the "need" to buy a drink for me? Wink haha.
     
  2. NICKmomot

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    I agree with you completely on this statement, and its arguments like this that makes me unable to take the feminist movement completely seriously. There just seems to be too much of a double standard throughout females. I know there are some people who actually do strive for equality, but certain groups of women just seem to strive for female superiority. Taking the parts of equality that they like, but not sacrificing the societal advantages that they have already been given.
     
  3. Jack B Nimble

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    EQUALity. ;)

    I know what you guys mean. Personally, I love to treat girls to a great time, but that doesn't mean that they can't buy me a drink or two once in a while. :)
     
  4. dltoken

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    Yeah, exactly how I feel about it... No harm in treating, but come on. I think it's my turn! haha.
     
  5. jamjr

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    Its crazy because I mean oppression has existed for so long that the woman had been built into a subservient role, they were toldf or so long and forced physically, mentally, spiritually into a somewhat subservient role, like on the molecular level, until last century we hadn't been re-routing on a mass scale, and now there seems to be kind of a divide, like a group of women who want to transcend the hegemony that a lot of sick males still believe in and forget men all together or at least just rid the world of the oppression of women at least [though im sure all who are educated are on this boat] and then there seems to be a chunk of the female population who is engrained in the game, like a tug of war, like getting into relationships for material perks, for dinners and materials instead of spiritually real things like love and happiness and i dunno whether its because of the great oppression or its because society is good at hiding the truth about whats really going on and tucking it into some corporate capitalistic fetish and it's weird because its all a power game men that are playing these roles are drowning a beautiful person in material waste in order to try and keep some outdated and never right in the first place standard or role or level or hiearchy or whatever you wanna call it, we'll say hegemony and then the women are playing the role as like a silent stalking prey almost like taking all of the male populations sins from the past and de humanizing them with that in order to not give a shit about a person and place materials above them, it seems as if men [not me but i am a boy so i do feel that i sahre the same history as everyone] de-humanized women and the result of that was a certain cache of women who have taken that de-humanization and brought it straight back to the men that set it in motion for them.

    I hope you guys understood that, thats a rough sketch of how i feel, its a pretty vicious kinda cycle.
     
  6. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    my rule of thumb is, who invited who? if some guy invites me to an expensive place i really can't afford, i always say something right up front. 'i'd love to go with you, but that place isn't in my budget'. then if he says it's his treat, fine. i prefer to buy when i invite a guy somewhere, or at least go dutch if he insists. partially because if i like i guy and want to have a chance to get to know him better, i figure i should pay...and it's my pleasure to do so. but also, that way i figure he can't pull that 'i bought you dinner, so you have to put out' crap. you don't really know if a guy you've recently met will pull that, and i put out when i want to put out...period.
     
  7. jamjr

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    right on sister. a lot of things are done like that and its sad to see that a lot of girls fall into that owing game when between two people if respect is there nothing is ever owed but gratitude.
     

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