I hate this all

I wasn't trying to make you understand anything. I just really, really wanted to do that. I wanted to point out how narrow-minded the post was, and how ignorant you sounded. Not ignorant of people or anything, but just ignorant of common sense. And I'm no longer talking to you, I'm talking to JimmyP. Thanks.

 

Yeal, I'm not sure if you realize it, but you really come off as an arrogant prick. That is all.

 

i think her original post shows wisdom beyond her years actually...and yours far short of them lol

 

Whooa calm down dude, Thats a bit harsh. What did cucumbers ever do to you?

 

(this thread seems a lot like this one: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=314463)

To be perfectly honest, if you continue on to a university (no matter how "liberal" they claim it is) it is going to be the same exact atmosphere. I went to one of the most supposed "liberal colleges in the States for a while) They will claim it is liberal and that they encourage thought and various opinions, but they still have to stick to curriculums (a bit more varied depending upon the teacher). You'll find that most U.S. Unis require general education credits to get a degree. Therefore for the first two years you'll mostly be having to choose between a select few classes (dependent upon what classification they fall under) in order to fulfill the requirements regardless of whether you feel you need to or want to take them. Basically the same as the high school education system, only now there's much more of a workload, teachers generally care even less about how you personally do (In big classes for sure) and you have a few more options in terms of classes and even studying abroad (most don't allow until sophomore year or later) Not really that much of an improvement in my opinion.

Plus you said you hate how our society evolves around money.....that pretty much sums up college, they charge you for every thing, first and foremost they are a businesses and ran as such, only in a more suttle and denied fashion. People are still very fake in college, in fact I think I meet more fake people.

Much like you I love knowledge, I try never to judge by appearance and care for all living things. I care very little for material possessions, in fact I always joke about how "you give me food, shelter, and my guitar and I'm happy for the rest of my life." Obviously I enjoy books, people, ideas, cultures and many other things, but none of which are material in a human sense other than books....I'd say bud but that's a plant) However unless you surround yourself by others who think likewise (not a university) then it will most likely always bother you, that is unless you conform.

I found that the most appealing lifestyle to one of "our" nature (I use "our" loosely because no two people are exactly alike, at least not that I've seen or heard of) is that of a backpacker or traveler. Going from place to place with little to no possessions, depending on your own instincts for survival and the hospitality of others. The people you meet and get to know are amazing people (granted there are assholes anywhere you go, but I guarantee you won't be forced in to having to hang out with them.)

Anyways, I wish you luck with discovering whatever it is you wish to do with your life. Then again perhaps there is no discovering to do, simply live and let things affect you as they happen. Let today become the good that forms your past, as your past will form who you are. Don't over concern yourself with the happenings of tomorrow, as they will be dealt with when they become the present. Worrying and anger generally make things worse. May you do everything you deem richeous and live a free life of true happiness and not pleasure (pleaser is only a weak substitute for happiness that involves our dull human senses and material things.)

I feel the wailers summed up a large part of life in one line, "In remembrance of today, brings sad feelings of tomorrow."


Oh and I started to actually read through this thread, thought I'd comment on Yeals comment,

No, it's called America because people are raised to think that they were raised to think however they please, when in reality they were raised to think and act in specific ways. Societal standards if you will, granted they exist around the world, but at least they exist mostly as tradition in places other than the U.S. (not completely but much more). No place can truly be perfect just as no human is perfect (we all have flaws, it's just that some have fewer than others), however claiming a certain place is more perfect than others when in fact it is not seems a bit worse to me.

If not that many people are influenced by T.V. then why is it that the main reason T.V. shows are on the air in the first place is due to the existence of commercials. Which rely solely on their ability to "influence" the masses by telling them what they need or should have. Without them their funding is gone and they would no longer exist.

Well I'm no anarchist, but I still find that to be a very absurd comment. Think back before violence, there were no forms of power, yet our human race still existed. Hell we even lived communally and didn't even eat meat at that point in time.

Don't get me wrong, I love the origin of the States and what we once stood for, but I can't wait to leave this country. It's just that the constitution isn't upheld and we are beginning to care less and less about peoples personal rights and right to privacy. Not standing up for your government doesn't make you un-patriotic in any sense. If anything challenging and questioning it in order to obtain a better form of government is what a true "patriot" should be doing. Instead we all to often label them "terrorists", just as we labeled them "communists" during the red scare.

It also seems as though you haven't even gotten past as you put it your own "ego" and you seem to have substituted a phrase like "thoughts you are expected to adhere to" for "subconscious," and conformed simply to fit in with the rest of society in order to obtain what many view as a more comfortable lifestyle (because it's accepted). Make up your own mind man, question everything, demand answers and make informed opinions rather than holding one for the sake of remaining "comfy and accepted".

As a final note I'd like to hilariously examine one more of your quotes Yeal. (I say hilariously because I really do find humor in them, no offense intended I'm just pointing out a fact.)

What? Seriously man, I realize now that I had no need to comment on anything you've said other than this. You claim he/she is not ignorant of people or anything then openly state he/she is ignorant of common sense. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't common sense involve people and everything (ie anything) that we know and consider to be true. Therefore it is out of common sense that I can make the assumption (I rarely make assumptions too) that you completely lack exactly what you claim another is "ignorant of."