Can Acid make you go crazy For The Rest Of You Life?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Jay_Billionz, Jul 5, 2008.

  1. Buddha Fish

    Buddha Fish wanderin' fish

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    Is it so bad that you go crazy?

    As Kurt Cobain said in "Lithium" - "I'm so happy, cause today I found my friends, they're in my head"

    Maybe going insane is reaching Nirvana. ;)
     
  2. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    eh...I doubt it.

    to me, not many psychotic people seem to be at peace.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm beginning to think that many of you have never really met someone who's crazy.
     
  4. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Why because we dont agree?
    Im beginning to think you have never really taken acid before. Is that fair?
     
  5. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    Thinking acid has made you crazy will make you crazy for the rest of your life.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Fair? :rolleyes:

    You can pretty much think anything you want.

    But I know what I've done and seen and I can guarantee even without knowing you that you haven’t met everyone that has done Acid.

    So my question to you is; why are you guaranteeing that everyone who does Acid will come back, even though you can’t possibly know that for a fact?

    Do you have a financial stake in wanting people to think that nothing could ever go wrong if they take LSD?
     
  7. newcarscent7

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    only if u o.d. on it
     
  8. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    You're awfully paranoid. Do you really think that you would be good enough to be the one in a million who goes crazy from the shtuff? Just kidding :D

    If you don't want to run the big apparent "risk" of taking LSD, then nobody is going to try and convince you too... Nobody has to bet money on their word, I'm sure they're giving you the best information they can from experience.... Transcending your huge ego for about 10 hours won't make you any more insane. Though personally I wouldn't advise LSD just yet simply because you seem like the type who may not be able to relax and go with the flow due to your many insecurities about the drug.

    Peace :cheers2:
     
  9. strat

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    I don't know man... I have however seen somebody come back (for a little while) from way out there somewhere. Took 8 benadryls (200 mg) and actually looked like she knew what was going on for once. For the first time in over 40 years. Even said the thanksgiving prayers that day. Might not seem like much - if you knew her though, you would understand. She's pretty far gone. The only thing keeping her from an institution is my grandma.
    I was later able through my research to connect the dots of the use of psychadelics in psychotherapy and the fact that 200mg's of benadryl is a mildly psychoactive dose (at least for an individual who is obese due to all sorts of meds that keep her from trashing the house).

    All I know is this... If psychadelics can bring somebody that far out, in, then they could probably take somebody very far out as well.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Are you talking to me? You quoted me but I don't see how your comments apply to what I said.
     
  11. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    ya, not like you would ever trip again!

    kinda makes you wonder why you would frequent the lsd section so much!

    you would say you are being realistic but all you are saying is that lsd can drive you crazy with no real explanation, like you are trying to strike fear in the inexperienced.

    none of us have said that lsd can not drive you crazy. all we are saying is that we have not seen it for our selves (and some of us have known many trippers) and that if it does happen that it happens to someone who was fucked to begin with.

    lsd can be very useful even to someone with mental problems or insecurities. one would have to be a week minded fool to wind up "not coming back" (a term i find hard to understand). i have seen lsd change people usually for the better, even if the change does not seem for the better at first the change is usually good for them as it brings out what needs work or attention.

    basically, if you a person with many difficulties in life and you dont feel confident enough to believe in a better way for your self stay away from lsd, otherwise drop some acid and enjoy the trip free from fear. lsd is a wonderful drug capable of wonderful things.

    just like in everyday life, some people face horrible things while others face wonderful things, all depends on your life choices, karma, fate or whatever you want to call it. point is that if your life is shit you are probably aware. if you are confident that lsd can be one of your keys to enlightenment then go for it, if you are afraid, leave it alone.

    i dont think we will ever be free of the idiots trying to spread fear when it comes to lsd use. all we can do is be here to offer an other perspective and hope that no-one is stupid enough to listen to someone who is incapable of enjoying a psychedelic trip!
     
  12. Hiram Joseph Yates

    Hiram Joseph Yates Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    BEST ANSWER.
     
  13. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    any reason why you dont have your own answer? maybe a little paragraph so others can know why what you have to say even matters.

    some guy who rarely (if ever) posts in the lsd section thinks that writing BEST ANSWER is somehow going to get his message across. i am sure if you took some time you would realize that because you are a different person you must also have your own unique perspective. sure, you can agree but what good is that if you dont share your own words so we can get to know who YOU are and why your post even matters.

    the post you refer to is a good one but BEST ANSWER implies that this is some sort of contest and who made you the judge?

    the great thing about a public forum is that you find many different perspectives. there is no best answer. all perspectives are important when addressing such a complex issue!
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Probably not, I got what I wanted from it in the 60s & 70s and I never did it just to entertain myself.


    First, I don’t frequent the LSD section all that much but if I see a topic that I have experience with I share what I know. In this case I happen to know someone who didn’t come back. Why are you in this thread because you don’t seem to know anyone who didn’t come back?


    What kind of kind of explanation would you like? Would you like to hear of how one time at a music festival, stoned on Acid, while walking by the Med Tent I could hear the screams of what seemed like hundreds of people on bad trips. Or would you just like to know about the person I know who didn’t come back? What have you got against people knowing the facts so they can make an informed decision?


    Actually some of you are saying that LSD won't make you crazy. If you’ve never seen it, how do you know you know who it happens to and who it doesn’t?


    How can you say that LSD can help someone with mental problems or insecurities, are you trained in this field or are you just expressing your opinion? Again never having met someone who didn’t come back, how do you know it would take a “weak minded fool” not to come back? As for not coming back it’s really not hard to understand, the person I know, no longer talks or makes any attempts to communicate with those around him and any attempt to communicate with him is not responded to, maybe he’s in a better place or maybe not, it’s pretty hard to tell.


    Yes for me I have always found LSD to be what you say; a wonderful drug capable of wonderful things, as I have never had a bad trip but to say; drop and enjoy free from fear, is just irresponsible. You are ignoring the fact that LSD is a powerful mind altering drug that affects everyone differently, so for you to say, in effect; don’t worry be happy and drop away, is just irresponsible.


    Thanx for the warning? A little muddled and it’s hard to know what you’re warning against but a warning none the less.


    If I’m an idiot for trying to give a realistic picture of what LSD can do to a person so be it and if someone is stupid for trying to find out both sides of the story before they decide whether to take powerful mind altering drugs, then the stupid seem pretty smart to me.


    PS As for being incapable of enjoying a psychedelic trip, I’ve enjoyed all of mine , thank you very much but I can’t say that for everyone that I know who has taken LSD.
     
  15. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    ^^^
    i know that lsd can help someone with mental problems and insecurities because i am one of them, now free from what used to be a problem. lsd allowed me to clean up my parents and societies negative effect on who i was.

    all you say is that it has happened and you have seen it. you dont go into why it happens so it is obvious that you dont know. people need to understand that when a trip goes bad it is the individuals fault and never the lsd. most likely everyone you know that either didnt come back or had a horrible experience were afraid of something. that is why i say not to be afraid. if you are going to trip there is no use being afraid especially when being afraid is exactly what causes bad trips.

    a trip might be difficult if you have something to learn and you are stubbornly clinging but this can be a good thing if you have faith that everything will be ok. if someone starts to freak out because they are afraid the lsd might fuck them up when the trip gets tough they only increase the chance of making matters worse or even perminent.

    your warnings should be disregarded as you do not really understand what happens to cause bad trips. you make it out to be like a roll of the dice, some sort of luck or chance when this is so far from the truth.

    lsd is NOT a game of chance. you will experience what you need to change, fight it or be afraid of it and you might just wind up in a worse place then before you took the lsd.

    "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
     
  16. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    if you were capable of enjoying a psychedelic trip then you would still be tripping at your age. it is obvious that although you may have gotten "what you wanted" from lsd you still have much to learn about life... perhaps in your next life!

    and lsd is not entertainment for me. it is about learning and growing through experience!

    if you think you got all that lsd has to offer then you are mistaken. easier for you to think you have gotten all you wanted then to admit that you are afraid of it in some way.
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Why would I still be tripping? Do you think that being high all the time is the only way someone can enjoy their life or learn about life? Personally, I've moved on with my life, better things to do, you know or maybe you don't.

    What have learned from LSD lately or has LSD become just entertainment for you and you don't know it?

    You don't know me or what I've gotten from LSD or not so you can't know whether I'm mistaken or not. Why do you keep bringing up fear? Is it you that might be afraid? Could it be that that you're afraid to face the world with out being in a drug induced fog? Is that why you don't want anyone to tell the whole truth about LSD?
     
  18. chemical beats

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    LSD is a load of fun.
    Tons and tons of fun and entertainment on a different scale.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    This only proves that LSD will help some one with your exact mental problems and is only subjective, you can't possibly know if you would have fixed these problems with out LSD.

    Yes, I have seen it and No, I don't know why it happens. But you've never seen it but know why it happens, yeah right.


    You keep talking like LSD has a personality and wants to teach you something. Well LSD does not have a personality, it is merely a mind altering drug someone cooked up in their basement and has no desire to teach you anything.


    What makes you such an expert on bad trips so that no one else could possibly know what they are talking about? Actually it is you that is far from the truth. An Acid trip is a combination of a person's mind, as individual as a fingerprint, and the circumstances that occur, as varied as the world itself and a powerful mind altering drug. Now you say that you can know what will make a good or bad trip for that person, must be nice to be omniscient.


    LSD is a "game" of chance and you will experience what you will experience and it will have nothing to do with what you need to change or not and you can make of it what you will.


    Yes, I agree one should never let fear control your life but there is such a thing as a healthy fear, such as meeting a she bear and her cubs in the woods but this should not prevent one from going hiking, just if you see one avoid it. Likewise one should have a healthy fear of mind altering drugs and take the proper precautions while deciding whether to take them or not.
     
  20. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    thank you for making it obvious.

    and what would the truth be? according to you people should be afraid that they might never come back from an lsd trip!

    you are trying to spread fear, it is obvious to those who can see clearly.
     

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