The question of Jimmy Carter

Discussion in 'Politics' started by xexon, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Say what you will about the man as president, but the works he has done as a humanitarian have seldom found their equal among other American presidents, past or present.

    Winner of a Nobel peace prize (something Bush will NEVER see), builder of houses for the poor, and wager of peace around the world. http://www.cartercenter.org/homepage.html

    The Camp David Accords, between Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, were perhaps the last sincere effort for peace in the Middle East. http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/campdavid/

    Jimmy Carter, in my opionion, was the last American president.

    I came across an article today, and it reminded me of the sig pic that you see below. Tell me, and Jimmy Carter, we're wrong.

    http://albawaba.com/en/news/227847



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  2. jsb

    jsb Member

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    Jimmy carter is an idiot and was a terrible president.
    He gave away the suez canal, ruined our military, botched the Iranian
    hostage crisis, Then there was his misery index. You add inflation +unemployment and you get an ungodly number. The first house I bought in 1980 had an 18% interest on the loan.Then he goes and meets with the leaders of hamas a terrorist group. Don't forget all the tin horn dictators he loves Castro and Chavez. As far as his Nobel Peace Prize that prize is a joke now. Al Gore got one for Godsake. The panel are all left wing wackos.
    Other than that Carter is ok I guess.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Jimmy Carter was a puppet just like every other president. He ran nothing as president -- his Trilateralist buddies like Brzezinski did. I am not going to praise him just because he might say a few things that sound good to a certain audience.
     
  4. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    What's a trilateralist?
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Members of the Trilateral Commission, which was formed in 1973 by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski. It's a highly secretive, globalist NGO (non-governmental organization) that brings the top power brokers together from US/Canada, Europe and Asia to discuss at secret meetings ways to bring about a standardized global system through the destruction of national sovereignty and the establishment of international laws and trade agreements. Many of its members are also members of other high-level organizations, such as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), Bilderberg Group, and the Club of Rome.
     
  6. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Very interesting. And thank you. I didn't know the Trilateral Commission existed until just now. For some reason I thought a Trilateralist was something like being a part of Julius Caesar's Triumvirate, and from your explanation it sounds like it isn't too far off.

    I can't figure out how to say "Zbigniew". Do you know how it's pronounced, by chance?
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    zah-big-new

    The "zah" is very short, though, so it's more like Zbig-new. His nickname is actually Zbig.
     
  8. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Zbig arsehole!
     
  9. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    jimmy carter was a faggot, a moron, and a horrible president

    "let us pray"

    lol
     
  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Jimmy Carter like all of us is simply human, at points in his life he was used and manipulated just like most elected officials are or have been even Abe Lincoln has his share of detractors as do Washington, Jefferson and a Adams both whom happen to be family to me.

    I think since his retirement he's seems more honest. I worry less about the Suez Canal, but will be eternally puzzled over why we gave up the Panama Canal to Chinese interests.
     
  11. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Jimmy carter is an idiot and was a terrible president.
    He gave away the suez canal,


    The Suez Canal was nationalized in 1956 by Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Jimmy Carter wasn't president until a few decades later. You're probably thinking of the Panama Canal. Critics predicted hundreds of thousands of commie pinko gay foreign-looking troops storming our shores within months. As you can see, it never happened.

    ruined our military,

    How so? I don't recall any foreign nations sending invading armies into Kansas or anything, so I'm not sure what you're speaking of.

    botched the Iranian hostage crisis,

    A lot of people blame him for the failed rescue attempt. I don't believe that he micro-managed that operation, but merely assigned it to the military to carry out.

    The economy was pretty rough at that time, due mostly to Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and Ford's war spending, plus literally millions of Americans had to return to civilian life after Vietnam- he was being handed a pile of crap, much like McCain will inherit when he's elected later this year.

    Carter wasn't the smartest guy in the world, but I think he gets a lot more blame than he deserves. He at least wasn't the total F-up that Reagan was.
     
  12. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    There are all kinds of weird "think tanks" around Washington. They are composed largely of former government employees and special interest groups. When you leave the fed, you'll likely work for one of these at one time or another. They want to pick your brain, and they're all highly intelligent to begin with. (coldly so)

    When an elected president starts picking his/her new cabinet, many of his future advisors are drawn from these think tanks. This is why the Bush administration has gotten this country into such deep trouble. The advisors are largely composed of people who have no problem telling you they're very partial to Israel, and the policies they help construct reflect that bias. (You can research what think tanks they came from on your own)

    Carter has being trying to take some of the bias out of the equation by giving the Palestinian problem more visibility. Outside of the "official" version of the way things are.


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  13. jsb

    jsb Member

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    My bad!!! I said Suez canal but meant Panama Canal. I stand corrected.
     
  14. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Mmmm. Thanks.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The Iranian hostage situation was taken out of his hands through Reagan and friends through the Iran/Contra scandal. Whatever Carter may have liked to have done others undercover and in the background were undermining his efforts.

    http://www.aiipowmia.com/other/iranhstgcrss80.html
     
  16. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    carter was a NUCLEAR PHYSICIST

    he wasn't dumb by any stretch of the imagination, best president we possibly could have had for three mile

    he got some really shitty situations all at once in his presidency, there was nothing he could have done other than what he did, the iranian hostage crisis demanded action, most other presidents would have forced action sooner with just as disasterous results, his hands were tied by almost two centuries of american foreign policy he had to keep in step with.

    civis romanus sum is a shitty burden to bear sometimes.
     
  17. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Carter was set up to fail.

    After he got into office, "they" found out he wasn't willing to go along with the agenda they had planned out for him. He wan't willing to be a talking head.

    From that point forward, they started to take him apart piece by piece.

    The rescue mission, had it gone as planned could have very well insured a second term because he would have been a hero then.

    Anybody who thinks Iran folded just because Reagan came into office is a sucker. How stupid can a people be to think an actor can ever be anything but an actor when given a role to play.

    Kindly ol granpa Reagan took many people for a ride. Down in California, the Terminator is doing much the same. He's been known to hang with the wrong crowd as well.

    Jimmy Carter is one of the last of the good men. Not perfect, but a preferable choice over most others.



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  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Reagan sold weapons to Iran at a time when US hostages were held in Iran.

    Reagan was a tool. We shouldn't be proud that we elected a president suffering from Alzheimers. Makes one wonder who was actually running the show.

    http://www.fair.org/articles/reagan-press.html

     
  19. SpreadneckGA

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    Jimmy Carter is a moron.
     
  20. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I find it interesting that you qoute Proverbs but then don't follow it.

    Most of Mr Carter's negative experiences happened before you were even born. If you were not alive in those days, you're only going to have the opinions of others and not your own.

    Do you have problems with what he's doing in the modern day?


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