Is Al Quaida is Jewish?

I see you have amended your post. No matter.

Keep your posts on topic please.



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Yeah, I've read it three times in the last week.
As it has been brought up here that many times, maybe you should read your own thread.
You said: "That time, Al Quaeda WAS Jewish" as if the link showed Al-Quaeda was Jewish (And if they WERE, what are they now? Roman Catholic, Buddhist?).
If you had said: " Look, here is somebody who WAS Jewish, and he worked for Al-Quaeda", I would have agreed with you.
As it was, you decided to be very very sloppy.
If you can't even make the effort any more, why should anybody else?

Oh look, he was going out with a half Jewish girl:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/5301512.stm

This MUST prove something.

I'll come back if you ever decide to make an effort.

Chow.

 

You consider a holocaust denial website to be a good source of information about a jewish conspiracy. That says all that anybody needs to know about you.

And meanwhile you've been busted by Odon for misrepresenting sources again.

 

Why are there so many ZIONISTS in the Bush cabinet?

Simple question.

Can you answer it?



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He was portrayed as the real deal on TV. THAT, is what bothers me about it. It was propaganda.

And people bought it. We need to ask more questions about who sold it.

As for the half Jewish girlfriend, what of it?

I had a fully Jewish girlfriend. I ran to get her out of bed on the morning of 9-11. We watched the 2nd tower fall together. I turned to her and said "the world just changed".

Yes it did. And I'm not the one responsible for it.



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Yes, but you did not say anything like that.
You said: "That time, Al Quaeda WAS Jewish"
So, we are supposed to interpret that as: "He was portrayed as the real deal on TV. THAT, is what bothers me about it. It was propaganda."

There have been many cases of non Muslims converting prior to then being radicalised.
Why are you so keen on picking on him?
Oh, yes because he was Jewish.
Edit: To be honest, i'm not even sure he was even Jewish, not sure how that works.

Pointing out the other chaps half Jewish girlfriend, was sarcasm...something that seems to crop up in this thread from time to time.
Edit: as this was the only Jewish connection I spotted: Gadahn's Jewish paternal grandfather

Just say:
I did not communicate my point effectively.
I've changed the point I was making.


Or maybe you would like to contribute to my thread, instead.

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=313544

 

The issue of the grandfather is what draws the largest red flag. He was a board member of the Anti-Defamation League.

These people are the pitbulls of Judaism. I don't know what kind of presence they have in Britain as opposed to the US, but they are among the most visible of all the Jewish entities here. I suspect they already have a presence on this forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

Let's see what others say about it:

http://wordpress.com/tag/anti-defamation-league/

http://www.ety.com/HRP/media/adl.htm

And just a plain Google search so you can browse things for yourself. Go through 4 or 5 pages to get a feel for it.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Anti-Defamation+League&start=0&sa=N



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Right, so now we'll conveniently glide over what I was talking about and move onto another point. Well done, chap, well done.

So, what do you actually know of Adam Yahiye Gadahn relationship with his paternal grandfather? When did his paternal grandfather die? Was his essay on his conversion written by the CIA or mossad? What precisely has his paternal grandfather got to do with this lads actions? Was he actually Jewish?
Adam Yahiye Gadahn converted to Islam before he joined Al-Quaeda.

From one tenuous link, you have decided to make a huge issue out of this. When infact it is remarkably flimsy.
I'm sure there are other people hooking onto other converts and proclaiming that Al-Quaeda is this that and the other.
But this, gee whiz, this is flimsiest thing I have seen in a very long time.

Please don't say: Good questions, I'd like to know the answers to them as well.
That is the biggest cop out ever.
Go do some research, base your case on something more than some wiki entry, and then come back to us.
If you find nothing, kindly keep this one to yourself and stop regurgitating the same point over and over and over.
It does get rather dull.

 

You might want to do some research on these guys as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Islam#From_unspecified_Christian_denomination

From unspecified Christian denomination

Chris Eubank - British boxer[71]
Sultaana Freeman - sued the state of Florida for niqab restrictions.[72]
Adam Yahiye Gadahn - spokesperson for Al-Qaeda; on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list[73][74]
George XI of Kartli - Saffavid commander.[75]
René Guénon - French Author in the field of metaphysics [76]
Ryan Harris- football player for the Denver Broncos [77]
David Hicks- Former Taliban fighter from Australia, recently released from detention in Adelaide. However, he later left Islam while incarcerated.
Bernard Hopkins - American boxer[78]
Silma Ihram - Australian pioneer of Muslim education in the West, founder and former school Principal of the 'Noor Al Houda Islamic College', campaigner for racial tolerance, and Author.[79]
Jermaine Jackson (Muhammad Abdul Aziz) - former member of The Jackson 5 and brother of popstars Michael and Janet Jackson.[80]
Sarah Joseph - commentator on women's issues and founder of emel magazine.[81]
Michael Muhammad Knight - American novelist, writer, and journalist.[82]
Rustie Lee - British television chef and celebrity.[83]
Germaine Lindsay - participated and died in the 7 July 2005 London bombings[84][85][86]
Alexander Litvinenko - former Russian spy converted to Islam on his deathbed.[87] [88]
Lee Boyd Malvo - convicted of capital murder and arrested for the Beltway sniper attacks, for being involved in 16 murders and 7 additional attempted murders.[89]
Ruqaiyyah Waris Maqsood - British author.[90]
Iyasu V - Ethiopian emperor.[91]
Jacques-Francois Menou - French general under Napoleon I of France.[92]
Bruno Metsu - French coach of the Senegal team at the 2002 FIFA World Cup[93]
Daniel Moore - poet [94]
Preacher Moss - American comedian and comedy writer.[95]
Sheila Musaji - founder of The American Muslim magazine.[96]
Ibrahim Muteferrika (original name not known) - From Unitarian Christianity, an early example of a Muslim publisher and printer.[97]
John Nelson - first recorded Englishman to become a Muslim.[98]
Prince Buster, Jamaican singer and producer.
Queen Noor of Jordan (formerly Lisa Najeeb Halaby)[99]
Omar Pasha - Ottoman general. Converted from Serbian Orthodoxy.[100]
Emin Pasha - physician, naturalist, and Egyptian governor.[101]
Judar Pasha - conqueror of the Songhai Empire.[102]
Bilal Philips - Islamic scholar and author[103]
Marmaduke Pickthall - famous translator of the Quran.[104]
William Abdullah Quilliam - 19th century British poet, ambassador and journalist.[105]
Ilie II Rareş - prince of Moldavia.[106]
Ahmad Rashād - Emmy award-winning sportscaster (mostly with NBC Sports) and former American football wide receiver.[107][108]
Richard Colvin Reid - shoe bomber (convicted terrorist) [109]
Franck Ribéry- a French football player. His name after he converted to Islam is Bilal.[110]
Busta Rhymes - Music artist, born to Rastafari parents
Sana al-Sayegh, dean of the Science and Technology Faculty at Palestine International University, converted to Islam in August 2007. Fatah has accused its political rival Hamas of forcing the professor to convert from Christianity, a charge Hamas denies. [111]
Brad Terrence Jordan ("Scarface") - American rapper[112]
Mario Scialoja - Italian ambassador and President of the World Muslim League.[113]
Betty Shabazz - wife of Malcolm X; former Methodist.[114]
Zaid Shakir - African-American Muslim speaker and intellectual in the United States.[115][116]
Rudolf Carl von Slatin - Anglo-Austrian soldier and administrator in the Sudan.[117]
Suleiman Pasha - French-born Egyptian commander.[118]
Joe Tex - soul singer and recording artist.[119]
Joseph Thomas - Australian convert, acquitted of terrorism charges, placed under a control order under the Australian Anti-Terrorism Act 2005, currently pending retrial.[120][121]
Richard Thompson - British musician, best known for his guitar playing and songwriting.[122]
Ahmad Thomson - British barrister and writer and also a member of the Murabitun movement.[123]
Top Topham - rock guitarist from England.[124]
Gabriele Torsello - Italian freelance photojournalist based in London who was abducted in Helmand Province, Afghanistan.[125]
Philippe Troussier - French, former football player & trainer of a Japanese football team[126]
Mihnea Turcitul - was a Prince (Voivode) of Walachia. Converted from Eastern Orthodox Christianity.[127]
Abu Usamah - controversial American-born Imam of Green Lane Masjid in Birmingham, UK. Accused of preaching messages of hate towards non-Muslims in a UK Television documentary.[128]
Jacques Vergès - French lawyer and famous anti-colonialism known for defending left- and right-wing international terrorists and dictators in court
Siraj Wahaj - African-American Imam, noted for his efforts to eliminate Brooklyn's drug problems.[129]
Danny Williams - British boxer[130]
Malcolm X - American, from Christianity to Nation of Islam to mainstream Islam, African-American civil rights leader.[131]
Khalid Yasin - Executive Director of the Islamic Teaching Institute, and a Shaykh currently residing in Australia.[132]
James Yee - former U.S. Army Muslim chaplain.[133]
Hamza Yusuf - American convert from Greek Orthodox; head of the Zaytuna Institute.[134]
Alexander Russell Webb - American journalist, newspaper owner, and former Consul-General of the U.S.A. in the Philippines.[135][136]
Suhaib Webb - American Islamic activist and speaker.[137]
John Whitehead - an American singer, songwriter, and record producer.[138]
Timothy Winter - prominent British Islamic thinker and scholar, and a lecturer in Islamic studies in the Faculty of Divinity at the University of Cambridge.[139]
Zağanos Pasha - one of the prominent military commanders of Mehmet II (Mehmet the Conqueror) and a lala, at once an advisor, mentor, tutor, councilors, protector, for the sultan.[140]
Mohammed Zakariya - an American master of Arabic calligraphy, best known for his work on the popular Eid U.S. postage stamp.[141]
Clement Lindley Wragge. A British born meteorologist who later moved to New Zealand[citation needed].

 

I got it right: A Profound Package of Shit

 

It is a person's right in most countries to change to whatever religion they want to.

What I question about this man is his sincerity in choosing the religion he did. While it may appear so, we have no real way of knowing. He could just as easily be acting as a double agent to infiltrate and finger people for later disposal. This is the usual method of doing business in all intelligence services around the world.

When you have a mugshot at the FBI's most wanted list, thats a pretty convincing cover, and it's NOT outside the realm of possibility that it is a cover.

Until he's caught, if ever, we have little to go on.

For all we know, he's being keep at the same military installation as Osama.

Osama used to be a CIA man too. I'm betting he still is.

You'll notice that the buzzword "Taliban" has fallen almost completely off the radar in favor of the new new buzzword "Al-Qaeda".



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Thank you for your input, Hiram.

Always nice to hear from people in Texas. Home of George Bush.


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Now, its a nice day here on the edge of Amerika. I'm taking a young lady for a bike ride around the lakes.

A JEWISH lady.

Made in Israel too.



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Tell her your theories.

 

Absolutely, so why have you such a big issue with this guy?
He is not the only convert to Islam, with links to a terrorist organisation.
He is not the only one wanted by authorities.
You did not have any answers to my previous questions, and you have just admitted little is really know about him.
Well, apart from who is, where he lived, what he has said, and who he affiliates himself with.
No, we know very little about him, really.

You are trapped in an endless maze, because you can't accept Al-Quaeda is an Islamic group.

You have some cock eyed notion the CIA run Al-Quaeda, based on nothing but a conspiracy, with only a kernel of truth to it.
It is doubtful even if this guy is caught, you will accept anything he has to say, because your theory is 3/4s complete already.
It seems you don't believe anything he has said regarding his conversion.
So, why after his capture will you suddenly believe him?

Now, you say OBL is in some military instillation, based on god knows what.
It just gets more flimsy as we go on.

Weasel words:
We have little to go on.
I'm betting he still is.
For all we know.
What I question.
He could just as easily be.

I've not noticed. I hear "insurgent" "Taliban" and "al-quaeda" when it is relevant to the story. With the increase coverage of Afghanistan, I'll probably here "Taliban" more.

 

Spot on.

 

i know a lot of muslims that plot 24/7 to kill anything not muslim

theres a lot of them
trust me

 

Hiptastic,

I've just spent the past half hour or so reviewing all your posts. About 90% is combative in nature with fellow forum members. You don't even post in the areas where most people do when they come to hipforums.

Of all the forums on the net, why here? I've seen zero evidence that you have a hip attitude about anything.

What brought you here and why?


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Lol, all I've ever seen you do is cop out of providing evidence.

 

Do you have something to contribute that's on topic?

People who don't should post elsewhere.


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