listen to my simple theory of gravity

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by solaris2008, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. CanniEvergrow

    CanniEvergrow Member

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    Thanks Kilo! Thanks Razor! Some incredibly FREEKY FREEKY stuff! I dont know alot of the words but I think Im sayin what yous are sayin. WILD! And thanks for the time yous took to answer a layman.
     
  2. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Canni

    Im a layman. educated in the 'finest schools' with a 4 GPA
    I used to dig ditches, i used to run a geibler printer
    a hamilton collator. a wildcat a shovel and a hammer.
    Those that have never worn gloves,who have never picked taters from the earth
    and say they understand the human condition, are full of shit.
     
  3. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    That was brilliant. Its the friction force that slows the tennis ball, otherwise it would follow Newton's first law of motion, an object in motion will stay in motion unless acted on by an external force, i.e. inertia.

    Yeah Occam, and that Simpsons episode is awsome. They address various important things, like Einsteins general relativity, and during one scene in that 3D space, they make a little joke about Fermat's Last Theorem, an important problem in mathematics.

     
  4. Razorofoccam

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    Kilo

    I've never had a head for math.. I understand fermats last theorem in general terms...but could not put in words.
    I'll stick with easy stuff like time dilation and gravitic ramping hehehehe

    Occam
     
  5. Razorofoccam

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    newton and einstein.. our gods.
     
  6. bamboo

    bamboo Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    What if...what if the Pauli exclusion principle was somehow working on a macro scale as it does on the quantum scale. What if...the universe as we know it is infact two "competing" universes that collided eons ago. One universe was a purely 'electro magnetic" universe where electric fields and magnetic fields in motion induced their counterpart with the "right hand" rule we all know and love. The "gravity-inertia' universe was also originally a right hand rule universe where as a moving gravity field induced a right hand reaction in its counterpart. Now imagine when they collided the "exclusion principle" would not allow both universes to follow the right hand rule so that the locally stronger electro-magnetic universe shoved the poor gravity-inertia reaction into two possible alternate phases. the first is 180 degrees opposed or inertia and the other is 0 degrees which becomes the effect that we know as gravity or mass.
    The overwhelming local strength of EM universe guarantees that any GI field line is walled off to a point source...it becomes a particle. All of the gooey einstein realitivity stuff becomes dictated on the extensions of this scenerio.
    The only time the gravity universe prevails is when the the local EM universe is over powered by the cumulative effect of extreme aggregate mass (black holes) and that is why the EM universe or quantum universe breaks down and the unknown properties of the GI universe take over inside the event horizon.
    Remember the force of gravity is something like 10 to the -23 that of the electromagnetic force...a huge difference that in nearly all quantum calculations allows gravity to be completely neglected.
    Play with the idea a while. It can grow on ya.
     
  7. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    colliding universes isnt a new idea, its part of M-theory's higher-dimensional membranes. Its a way to explain the Big Bang, as two membranes that collided letting out enormous amounts of energy in a big explosion, and what we know as the big bang. M-theory also says that the Big Bang may not be anything special, their may be other and/or parallel universes, and big bangs and big crunches may be happening all the time.

    BTW, M-theory is a theory that unifies the 5 different types of string theories or superstring theories.

    definitely. Especially Newton, he IS god himself. Newton practically discovered physics and invented calculus, and wrote a book more important than the Bible, the Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica, the mathematical principles of natural philosophy. Natural philosophy is what they called physics in Newton's day.
     
  8. CanniEvergrow

    CanniEvergrow Member

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    Can paralel universes be created when objects in our own univers excelerat to c and become huge? As more and more mater reaches c,more and more stuff would be in the new "huge" univers. The objects would be so big,they would be undisernable when vieued from theyr orrigional universe. I could see how we could exist in that old stoners cliche about,-"Wow man, what if there was tiny universes livin rite inside my little finger." I could just totaly see that. I think that if an object reaches c and attains its infinate mass, the univers it left behind would be small enoughf to flow between the objects now infinatly large attoms. This explanes to me how more than one object could occupy the same space. Please forgive me if Im way way off. In my mind tho,this is how things seem to me. Could it be something like this?
     
  9. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    I've already been to dozens of forums like that.

    kilO

    I would blow them away.
    'For example' Fat tony is one hell of a smart dude.
    Yet even he is left sometimes without words to answer my posts.
    Not because they are nonsencical.. but because they are .........
    [asking questions humans cannot answer.Thats why i ask them. maybe a human will answer.]

    occam
     
  10. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    Sorry guys, I'll get back to you guys tomorrow, right now, Im drunk n barred the fuck out.
     
  11. Razorofoccam

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    KilO

    hhahha

    Occam [ish]
     
  12. Razorofoccam

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    I tried to kill my self with alchohol.. but after 2nd bottle of vodka i forgot what i was doing,,,lol
    And i learnt 1st hand why russians are the way they are.
    korosho .. [NYEH]
     
  13. Razorofoccam

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    occam is an enemy of the darleks.. EXTERMINATE
     
  14. fat_tony

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    The exclusions principle does apply on macroscopic scales. Why did you think you don't fall through the floor? If your playing around with atomic physics this exchange interaction is one of the rules you use to work out where electrons end up. Im not really sure of the details of applying the exclusion principle to other universes. The exclusion principle relies on fermions having identical quantum numbers. You seem to be envisaging other universes as being like ours so we are like lots of universes occupying different point in the same 3-space that can collide. I guess the simly answer is it depends on what quantum number may reside in a higher dimensional space and what spin may mean at which point we leave my competancy well behind.

    Though there will be searches for large extra dimensions at the LHC, the simplest way to do this is to look for large amounts of missing energy. Personally I slightly prefer large extra dimensions as a solution to the explanation for the weakness of gravity, I think its quite tidy. Though in most most spartan version EM has no interaction in these dimension, its only gravity that we need to explain in this framework. But how often does the simplest explanation turn out to be the correct one.
     
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    what?
    your competancy was left behind next to mine
    1/2 way through the second bottle

    between the cliff and the wolves




    occam
     
  16. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    THE higs boson will take us to the stars.
    Oh sorry im a poser.. dont actually know what a higs boson is.. i just say it to impress girls at the bar....lol
    hey im pseudoquantum/mechanic... and in my spare time i fix toasters.
    I need to dissasemble the throttled magnetic ramscoop in backyard to fix your toaster lady...


    occam
     
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  18. WaterBreather

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    Not so.
    The atmosphere is also spinning so that's why you move with it.
    The force of the Earth spinning is applied to you, the atmosphere, and the Earth,
    thats why you do not notice it.

    In the case of training astronauts, the air inside the plane, and the plane itself, are simply moving at the acceleration of gravity.
    Thus the two forces counteract each other.
    This gives the astronaut trainee a brief sense of weightlessness.

    When descending in a lift, you get a slight loss of gravity for a moment.
    If the lift descends with a fast enough acceleration, you would weigh less for a brief period of time.
    (And so does your lunch in your belly)

    Remember : weight is the force of gravity; whereas mass, is the substance of the body.
    This is why it is wrong to use the old Imperial scale, as lbs and kgs are only interchangeable from the perspective of the Earth.
    If one is educated using the metric scale, it is a lot less confusing.

    ;-j
     
  19. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    I don't quite know what to make of your gravitational theory, but I certainly agree with the last line:

    Schools are crap in general.
     
  20. meridianwest

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    the force u're talking about is centripetal force. and in this case it is caused by gravity not the other way around.
     

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