Pure Meditation without attachments (no yoga etc)

Hey all


I am going through a pretty rough time in my life now. I have trouble with sleeping, I am always tense and nervous, always trying to be aware and prepared for anything and everything. My self esteem has lowered (?) and I am always thinking about what other might think about me.

Anyways, I think that meditation would be just the kind of thing that would help me. I have "aquired" some meditation videos on the net, but they are all really yoga excercises, and also allot of hippie healing weird stuff.

I want to learn a scientific approach of meditation, without all of this "expand the love in your heart crap" and religious stuff, because that is simply not me. I have tried it, but I cant learn something that makes me feel like a idiot while doing it. I want to learn "pure meditation only", without attachments to religion and stuff like that.

I want to learn to (without having to go through a number of X yoga poses first) enter a peaceful and calm, yet aware state of mind, without the hippie stuff. Something that I can apply anywhere and anytime, not just when I happen to have my yoga mat stuffed in my pocket.


Anyone here who knows something that might be good for me?

Thanks

 

Well, to be fair Yoga and meditation are spiritual exercises focused on merging with God, or Source.

However, there are ways to meditate without the spiritual side of things. Look up Transcendental Meditation. It's a non-spritual form of meditation. It might be what you are looking for. Although you have to pay a pretty hefty sum to learn it. Basically it's just a mantra they give you and you repeat it in your head. They also provide some techniques, but I'm sure it's nothing you can't learn online. Check out this website.

http://home.att.net/~meditation/MeditationHandbook.html

It has some techniques you could use. The author does not use any spiritual talk.

Also the effects of yoga last long after the yoga mat. It's a great way to learn how to relax.

 

Yeah, there's a possibility you can find peace of mind without philosophy and alot of lovey dovey mood making. It is done.

However, it still takes a technique which means a lineage. So study the Eastern lineages and find a smart technique which will work for you.

I suggest you start with Dzogchen. It seems best for the lazy. I also liked TM. It's tres cher though. But these are two transcendental paths. One wants to learn about absolute unchanging reality and how to work directly on the level of the mind to perceive it even in action.

Of course, we never said it would be easy. But the search is the hard part. The smartest techniques which work on the mind are jnana or wisdom techniques.

But before they are possible you might want to explore what these teachers say of reality. Is it like what you feel is true? You have to trust the source of your wisdom.

That's probably the reason for the search itself. To trust.
But start with trusting yourself.

 

Here's a meditation for you: Stop putting conditions on your peace. Stop putting conditions on your happiness.

 

ooohhhh I like that!

 

Then do it

 

I just posted a guided meditation on my journal... I wrote it a couple of years ago, and it's worked great for me.

http://www.hipforums.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalid=494

 

How about the hemisynch meditations? They seem more scientific than spiritual to me.

 

Hey everyone. I'm really interested in learning more about meditation. I just read James Ray's book Harmonic Wealth and have been practicing his four categories of meditation: Focusing/Visualization, Listening/Watching, Static Transcendence, and Mobile Transcendence. He lists a bunch of ways to access each category in his book (page 309), but I'm still having some issues. I have listened to some meditation DVDs in the past and have been able to get into that space pretty easily, but I'm having a much harder time focusing in on my own. Any tips for how to tune in without the help of an audio track?

I plan on attending Quantum Leap in the fall, so hopefully he'll teach me some more techniques there, but I'd really like to keep meditating before then and make some progress.

Help!

a JR fan

 

You don't need all of those props to meditate, and achieve personal-well being.
All you have to do is decide if you want to be in a peaefull state of mind, or not.
You can be anywhere, anytime to meditate.
Breathe in, and out and in and out, repeating, zone out background noise, and focus on one thing, then clear your mind of nothing and try to focus, by the time your done you feel really refreshed, the longer the better.
Mala beads help!

 

I learned TM back in the '70s. At that time it was quite cheap. The current price is around $2500. Any one can learn and I don't believe you need to be affiliated with the TM movement to do it. There are many things about TM that I don't subscibe to. The first is the lack of openness about how the mantras are assigned to students. The mantras are actually assigned by the basis of age. The grandiose vision of the effects of TM is also off-putting as is the great attachment they hold toward Maharishi.

That said the technique itself is simple and very effective. Sit comfortably, relax, become aware of yourself and let the mantra enter your mind without forcing anything. I'm not sure if there are some sounds that work better as mantras, but you are welcome to try mine. It's inga, (pronounced ine-ga). If the mantra doesn't come, no big deal. If you are thinking thoughts, just notice and don't judge. Let your thoughts float above your conciousness like tiny boats. After about fifteen or twenty minutes take a couple of minutes to let your conciousness come back to the surface and try to have some quiet activity after coming out of meditation. That's it in a nutshell. How they get off charging $2500 is a mystery.

Use this technique, then pass it on. I don't believe there are any karmic benefits to giving TM your money.

 

thx elle. i feel like ive been getting better week by week and have been focusing on myself (though i do still love my books and seminars - they help me get perspective

 

I find this site pretty useful

http://www.lorinroche.com/page72/page72.html