Instead of Son worship, how about Sun worship? What is the sun anyway? Is it alive and conscious? Where would we be without it? Are solar flares dangerous? Which ancient religions worshipped the Sun? What's the proper UV sunscreen rating to worship the sun?
No takers on this? Think about what ol' Sol means to us. It is what energizes most life on this planet. Without it, we would all die quickly. It terms of power, I doubt ANY angel or archangel can match it. So why is it not venerated by our patriarchial religions? Why do the old & new testaments barely mention it, except to tell people NOT to worship it? How can you NOT worship the bringer of life to the surface of our planet? Some Native Americans were deep into Sun Worship, or Sun Watching. They could track and measure solar flares and knew these presaged great climatic changes, not unlike what is happening now. The Mayan Sun Calendar ends in 2012 and for many people we are in the end of days and a dramatic change is beginning on our planet. See http://www.xploreheartlinks.com/nativeamerican.html for more info.
"In reality, the surface of their 'Source-of-Heat,' like that of all the ordinary suns of our Great Universe, is perhaps more covered with ice than the surface of what they call their 'North Pole.' "Surely this 'hearth-of-heat' itself would rather borrow heat, if only a little, from some other source of 'cosmic-substance,' that send a part of it's own heat to any other planet, especially to that planet which, though it belongs to it's system, yet in consequence of the splitting off from it a whole side, became a 'lopsided monstrosity' and is now already a source of 'offensive-shame' for that poor system Ors. Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson", page 135 -136 "Here you might as well, I think, be told, by the way, about an interesting fact I noticed, which occurred in the history of their existence concerning the strangeness of the psyche of the ordinary three-brained beings of that planet which has taken your fancy, in respect of what they call their 'scientific-specultations.' "And that is, that during the period of my many-centuried observation and study of their psyche I had occassion to constate several times that though 'science' appeared among them from almost the very beginning of their arising, and, it may be said, periodically, like everything else there, rose to a more or less high degree of perfection, and that though during these and other periods, many millions of three-brained beings called there 'scientists' must have arisen and been again destroyed, yet with the single exception of a certain Chinese man named Choon-Kil-Tez, about whom I shall tell you later in detail, not once has the thought entered the head of a single one of them there that between these two cosmic phenomenon which they call 'emanation' and 'radiation' there is any difference whatever. Beelzebub's Tales... pages 141,142
freepers? what a load of codswallop. I theorize that patriarchal faiths ARE suggesting sun worship. They silenced/ forbade MOON worship. The sun, Sol Invictus , is MALE in all psychic terms. I was at a balagolukam today and their opening had a salute to the sun.
I'm not sure if patriarchial religions was the best term to use. Certainly Judeo/Xtian religions forbade the worship of the sun (that was my meaning). Why? Cause these were PAGAN ideals. Like the Egyptians who worshipped Ra, were contemporaries of the jews. Sexism had nothing to do with it. How can you worship the SUN and the SON at the same time? Nope, ol' Sol is banned from the holy trinity. Perhaps since these religions came from the mideast, where the sun isn't all that friendly most of the year (quite oppressive really), they didn't feel like thanking the sun for parching them (esp. the jews wandering in the desert for all those years!). Anyway, yes, the sun is yang, the moon yin, but worshipping either was banned by western religions. But for our purposes I'm far more interested in the physical and psychic connections we have to the sun. We could view it in connection with the various elements, air, fire, water, earth as one of those primary elements that give and sustain life on the planet. Pagans worship all these elements and have some really great ceremonies to honor them! And at this point, if we want to reverse global warming, I believe praying to the sun would probably be as effective as anything the Bush administration has come up with (which is nothing at all!). I even wonder if it isn't the increased, record sun spot & solar flare activity over the past decade hasn't had an effect on our climate. All those solar flares put out incredible amounts of energy, more than anything else in our solar system. When Earth comes into contact with that energy, it MUST be absorbed by our atmosphere, and it's very likely to be a major cause of global warming. I'm really surprised no studies have addressed this so far that I've seen. From an astrological viewpoint, the Sun is the most powerful "planet" in the chart, and the sun sign represents our individuality, ego & aspirations among other things.
When my friend was in Eastern Europe, she told me in many places Christianity had never really converted completely, really more combined with Paganism than wiped it out, and that Christ was openly associated with the sun. She said while she was there there was a sun festival there, and that the cross was frequently displayed against or within an ornate rayed solar disk. Sun worship in its loosest definition isn't banned outright in tall the versions of Christianities that I'm aware of. I know many new-age and liberal Christians who actually kind of dig it. My ex mother-in-law went to the United Church of Christ, and sort of grokked on the idea of Christ as the sun, at least on the symbolic level. There's a reason why Easter services are usually held at sunrise. As far as my personal take on Sun worship, I think of it as part of an equasion. If we are to look at the necessity for life, the sun is a major part of the picture, but not the whole thing. Life requires light, and also moisture, and air (either CO2 or oxygen) for respiration, as well as some kind of physical form, however small. This is where we get the classic 4 elements of Fire, Water, Air and Earth. Some systems see the fourth element of earth as containing the other three, being a physical manifestation of those elements in varying combinations. I think, as global warming becomes a greater threat to our continued existence, sun worship, at least in terms of acknowledgement of power and respect, is going to be extremely vital. Protection of our atmosphere, the effects on global warming on the ice caps, our oceans, and drastic weather paterns, and how this affects climate and changes in our ecosystems are served through the "worship" of the other elements, all of which are encompassed in earth worship. I tend to identify myself spiritually as Gaian, the physical earth as Goddess, so that's my take. (Kind of like Pantheism, with an extensive supporting cast.)
Yes, I've seen the sun as a symbol used to hold the host in a sacramental tool used by the pope. It's probably one of those pagan symbols that the church stole, but uses very sparingly. I think it's interesting that the position of the sun is replaced by the host, which is supposed to be the body of christ. See they just replaced SUN worship with SON worship as I was saying... Let's take back the SUN!
Joshua of Nazareth is just Mithra in drag...sun worship. the masses always flow like water around the rule makers.
The sun doesn't speak to me much, but Gaïa would be nice. She give us water, food and herbs and I think we should thank her.
You're right! It was considered a pagan worship. But how contradictory is to see that even Romans by the time Constantine I legalized Christianity (to his own political conveniences) were still pagans adoring: Apollo, Diana, Jupiter, Mercury, Venus, etc. Maybe at the Council of Nicaea he manipulated most of the written texts? There are some few references to the Sun and some other stars in the old and new testament though. For instance, Jesus Christ said: 2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star. Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star." ♥ Love ♥ Anima_Mercury
I don't really know much about sun worship, but I do think that respecting the sun is very important as without sun, we would not have life itself! I don't really agree with or take part in organized religion, but I do have a very strong belief in worshiping Gaia and the sun, moon, water and earth, and of course trees. I have a lot of pagan, buddhist, hindu and taoist elements in my own little belief system, but mostly I am moved and touched by Mother Earth. I just think that this earth has given us everything, and she deserves our love and respect.
The Goddess of Pagan worship is in various cultures in history referred to as Diana, Aphrodite, Sofia, Astarte, Ishtar and more, you get my drift. The very first Christian church built was? Anyone? The Hagia Sofia in Istanbul. Named for the feminine aspect of God. Built before the New Testament was compiled.
