Deja Vu from LSD, Psilocybin, etc.

I have had quite a few experiences with psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, and a bit of experience with LSD. I have also smoked many varieties of salvia foliage and its extracts, several experiences with a couple varieties of N,N-DMT, and a couple of experiences with 5-MeO-DMT, etc.

Point is I am a psychedelic enthusiast, and on a couple of my journeys I have had trips where I felt as though I saw and experienced all of my life, including that which I had not yet lived. It seems as though as this has happened more and more in my trips, I have deja vu very, very frequently and feel as though the majority of moments I have already experienced and have only a hazy memory of. Its almost as foggy as a memory you're trying to recover from being blackout drunk. You remember very vague details but it seems to fit.

Earlier tonight I came across a very interesting topic on the subject:

http://www.shaktitechnology.com/dejavu.htm

As a last detail on my experiences, I feel it is important to add that for the last few weeks, every 2-4 days I have taken small doses of N,N-DMT, barely enough to have any visuals at all. I had been taking these small doses to alter my state of consciousness at a lower level so that my thoughts might lean towards the spiritual side. Right now I am unsure as to whether this deja vu is something that some of you consider to be legitimate, and that in these psychedelic experiences you genuinely live your entire life in a single moment... or if its just something that works similar PTSD, which causes flashbacks... in a similar fashion to how a bad LSD trip can cause flashbacks as well.

Summary:
I have been taking psychedelics regularly for the last few years. I am now experiencing deja vu on an often daily basis. In my trips it has felt as though I have already lived my life and have seen my past present and future and lived it in a single moment, and I am wondering whether you think these type of experiences are legitimate or not.

 

I think you need a break from psychedelics, i know what your saying, a half year ago i would take shrooms every 2 weeks, and well, flashbacks are crap.. i had alot of them.. they should go away if you take a break for a few months.. or atleast partially.

"everything became a reflection of the past" that is how i described the flahbacks .

 

Welcome to Hip, I just wish I could help you out as I have the same problem, or at least similar through my usage of psychedelics. I've learned to push them to the side, but am curious if they could be important to my everyday life. Sometimes coincidences come into play just as much as deja vu for me also, which can be exceptionally deep.

I usually say it's just "all the acid talking" but this thread now steers me otherwise...

Good post!

 

Flashbacks are when you feel an emotion that you felt during a specific (And possibly traumatic) event, at a later date. You don't have to be able to remember the event at all to have a flashback of an event.

I am referring to the phenomenon referred to as Deja Vu, where you feel as though you can remember things before or as they happen.

 

Aah, ok, sorry, miscomprehended it then ^^.

 

Man, that's so weird, I know exactly what you mean, it gave me a chill. I hope someone can shed some light on this, I look at deja vu much differently after using psychs..

 

Thanks. Based on my readings, I have come to the conclusion that various cultures have used meditation to "remember" events which have not yet occurred. Oddly enough I have also had dreams of things before they have occurred, and vividly imagined things before they occurred. I have encountered various other psychic phenomena growing up. All prior to drug use.

The deja vu is more recent. It isn't really bothersome, although sometimes its hard to say if I do remember someone or something or not for certain. I can't help but think neurons or synapses in my brain are not operating correctly, or perhaps I am simply more open to a higher level of being and am now able to see the flow of life as it is.

I have been meditating since last December now, and in my most recent LSD, Mushroom, and DMT trips, I have been able to go into a deep stage of meditation going into the trips, during the trips, and exiting them. I feel very one with everything now, but I have a lot of deja-vu, and have been somewhat anxious for the last few months due to the death of a friend.

Now don't get me wrong, these psychedelic experiences have been enjoyable in that they were humbling and taught me a great deal about life. None of them were bad experiences. They were just very intense, and I learned a great deal, saw a great deal, and experienced a great deal. Now I'm just having trouble deciding which memories are real.

 

Did you ever expirience thelepaty? If you look at deja vu like some sort of thelepaty, it becomes more understandable what it is. Is it possible that the same way you know what somebody want to say, that you know what will happen? For example, somebody wants to call you and you receive his thoughts and according to that you create the picture how everything will look like and when that really happens, you got the impression that you already lived through the same situation. Psychedelics do open some channels for that kind of "comunication" and if you were taking some every day, it just left those channels open.

There is another possibility.
Past, present and future all exist simultaniously. That means that you are living several lifes at the same time in different dimensions and the time we know does not exist. Speed of thought is the fastest known speed, thought reaches its destination before it was sent. By saying this, is it possible that your perception of the moment that you expirience as deja vu was triggered by the thought witch quickly came from the "future" dimension and created the picture witch you are expiriencing several moments after you received it and recognizing it as something familiar.

Just few thoughts, maybe they will give you approach from another point of view. All memories are real, its just the matter of recognizing from witch reality or dimension they are.

Anyway cool thread!

 

Deja Vu seems to me to be more of a skip in the eternal beat of Om. The eternity of the present and realizing the now for what it is. It feels so familiar because there is no time or space, there is only existance and it dawns on us forcefully from time to time.
Psychedelics work with the mind's eye without a doubt, and certain meditation and yoga sadhana's such as working on the Ajna Chakra tend to leave me with more and more experiences of Deja Vu as well as intuitive dream's. Another thing I've noticed is that I can just be sitting around reading or listening to music, and my mind will start to conjur up visions of certain people or places and dwell on them, only to find out later that something wonderful/terrible has happened to them.
I dont look at it as psychic or telepathy, I dont care much if at all for that kind of thing. I just know that we are all One, we are connected on a mental field where awareness branches out and manifests itself as dualistic consciousness, and when we transcend that boundry in ourselves we start to be in tune with more Natural states.
God Bless ~

 

are the experiences uncomfortable? i've dreamt a dream before it came to fruition. but i would see the abundance of situations causing the deja vu as a positive thing. to feel that i've experienced something that i know i never have gives me the sense of knowing i'm where i'm supposed to be.

 

Talk about concise. That was 100% truth.

But I wish i could figure out how to infinitely perpetuate that feeling of when "dawns on us forcefully". I wonder what life would be like then.

 

Thank you my friend, Im glad to see that you agree with me. Not many people do, and even most people who give my idea any merit worth listening to, tend to think Im missing something. However I think it is all of us who are missing nearly everything by remaining rooted to our bodies and concepts of time/space, and the Deja Vu episodes need to be forceful for that reason.
As for getting stuck (or rather, merging with eternity) in a perpetual state of Deja Vu, I cant be too sure because although it has increased in both occurence and duration, I still can not grasp that state of being and hold it. I can tap into it during meditation but that is also forced, by the inside rather than the outside. I believe that if we were to study a TRUE Kundalini Awakening (not the average health benefits to mind/body/spirit from hatha yoga) we would may begin to realize that this is indeed that very state the mystics have been grasping at since the dawn of self reflective consciousness.
The actual full illumination, enlightenment, moksha etc. that is represented by the Devi merging again into Shiva represents the end of worldy attachment and the completion of the karmic cycle and liberation into the Oneness of our existance, or as my friend Bhairavaji puts it, 'to walk in the garden of the Mind of God.'

As the serpent of the lower body energy rises back up through the chakras, culminating above the 3rd eye (ajna chakra) at the crown of the head (sahasrara chakra), the soul of Man is given to drink from the endless fountain of God's love. The sings are everywhere, from ancient Mesoamerican paintings and pottery, to the modern Caduceus.

Coinsidence? Maybe. But I doubt it, there is a connection to be made and until we each make it and experience God's cosmic totality, the moment of now which is but thousandths of a microsecond while also embracing all thoughts and memories of the past and future, stretching back to the beginning which doesnt exist and reaching out for the end which is never coming, we will be left to our dualistic opinions and gropings in the dark.
"Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things." (John 8:28)
"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life." (John 3:13-15)
God Bless Family ~

 

In fact, the way my wife put's her opinion on Deja Vu, is that she says It feels like everything is perfect, that Im in the right place at the right time.
I think I put it in the same light, I just go off with my descriptions trying to link it with the 'state' that mystics, monks, saints, yogi's, arhats, and so on have been describing poetically for thousands of years.
God Bless ~

 

is there really any such thing as a coincidence now... everything happens for a reason.

 

astral projection.
learn to use it, the world is yours

 

thats it. thats the way i see it, lucy found me when i was ready. Deja Vu is an affirmation that my life is heading in the right direction, even if it doesn't feel like it is right at this particular moment in time, I know that this is what I'm supposed to be doing and everything will end up the way it's supposed to because I'm heading in the right direction.

 

Im happy that you agree with her!
I also agree with the statement entirely, however I feel that no matter where we are headed in life, no matter what we do, we are always headed in the right direction, because I believe that there is only one direction to head in, and that is toward God consciousness. Or moksha or enlightenment, whatever the name you choose to call that mind source, I just prefer God despite the negative conotations stuck to the name in modern thought.
I feel that wether you are about to love someone and help them, or hate someone and kill them, you are still headed in the right direction, but my reasoning for such an opinion is that your karma is a physical/mental debt that you owe to Mother Nature and you have to live it out. We all have different paths and we learn in our own ways, and those who have accumulated such karma that they are murders or rapists or war mongers and so on, have just accumulated more negative debt to work out, but that does not mean that the soul hidden behind the mind and body is not equally as beautiful as anyone elses. I choose not to look at people for what they appear to be, or even for the intentions they may be harboring. I see all of us, myself included, as being programmed and trying to work out that program in order to be liberated. Many of us are not even aware of the programming, but with tools like LSD and by tapping into Love and Light, we begin to see through the facade of our reality.
However I wish no one to think that I believe that murders are unable to control such an action and that it should be accepted behaviour, what I am saying is that I feel that as more intelligent, loving, and awakened people, we should be able to see past their behaviour and recognize the equality within us and them, and to realize that they will simply deal with themselves, punish themselves, and teach themselves by means of karmic reaction. This body and mind we are currently inhaibting is nothing more than a loan from Mother Nature, and therefor all action and thought produced and received by this body and mind are of concern to Nature, not to God, nor to our higher Self.
But this is just how I see it, I can never explain it the way the Bhagavad Gita does. There is a reason for that entire message to have been taught on a (metaphorical) battlefield. So it would naturally make sense, to me, that deja vu is so familiar and feels so *right* because everything is always perfect, it's just that your opinions got in the way of recognizing that truth, and thus deja vu is 'forced', just like ego death. They just happen, and as many of us are right now, we cant live in either state for eternity, we have much more mental baggage to drop off.
Namaste

 

For me , deja vu is like my essence momentarily leaves my body , and I look through my eyes as if their vision were a snapshot. And I am able to appreciate every micron of the photograph in less than a nanosecond.

That's as close as I can come (at this moment) to conveying teh feeling.

 

i think of deja vu as remembering something that happened in a past life
like that the universe eventually restarts at square one and everything happens all over again

 

i think deja vu is just a glitch in the matrix