philosophy of dosen't really matter

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Freedom_Man, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. Freedom_Man

    Freedom_Man Senior Member

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    I understand the interest in questions like how the world came about, where did all the hsit come from, where is it going, what happens after we die, is there or is there not a god, is there absolute truth, all kinds of shit like that. it's interesting and all and fun to think on and talk about but really do you ever think we will ever find any of that out? and even if we do find any of that out, what makes us think what we "found out" is right anyway? its cool that people have so many different view points on this kind of shit and fun to talk about them, but why stress? why sit up nights wondering straining your brains and eyes over shit that, we cant find out anyway.

    people have all kinds of different religions and philosophies and shit convinced they're right and everyone else is wrong and some even view themseleves as better because some certain belief, but thats alll it is belief, no one knows. so don't worry about it is all im saying, and fucking dont think your opinion is so much better or more valid than anyone else, its interesting and all but shit im rambling haha. i hope you get my point, im bad at putting this kinda shit in words.
     
  2. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    I get what you're saying and I think you're absolutely right. Philosophy doesn't really matter. Any kinds of thoughts and beliefs and viewpoints don't really matter in the ultimate sense, it's just mind stuff. There's something beyond the mind that matters absolutely. The mind always wants to figure out what that is, but it can't, because IT is beyond the mind. LOL! That's why most spiritual seekers never find what they're seeking, because the act of seeking is mind stuff and actually prohibits the finding.

    By the way, everything I just said doesn't really matter either. lolol! But sometimes words can be helpful pointers... that's about the best they have to offer.
     
  3. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

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    In my opinion "inner" philosophy is more important than "outer" philosophy.

    I don,t know if these words make sense

    but what I mean is I feel that the important part of philosophy and spirituality really is the reflexion and the awareness of your own self and of humankind and every day life etc.

    rather than reflecting on things like what is God, what's the purpose of life (well mine is to be happy but some people really need a spiritual answer to this one, oh well...)
     
  4. sexylilunicornbutt

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    Yeah I think it matters. If you understand reality for what it is, then you'll be able to live in harmony with it. If you really understand, who knows what can happen? You can see through time and become psychic and have powers of lovemaking that men only dream of.
     
  5. Haten_leet

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    "With out philosophy were mindless robots"
     
  6. Hoatzin

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    No-one needs philosophy, just like no-one needs deodorant. Doesn't mean you don't want it though.
     
  7. neodude1212

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    I think it matters. All the wondering and the "how" and "why", are questions, that when asked and pondered, advance us as a species. All of the technologies and various advancements we have made, were at one time just philosophy and thought. The very computer you are using to read this right now, was at one time just a incomplete formless thought in someone's head, that was questioned and developed through years to get to the end result of what sits before you. The same can be said with practically anything you can think of that we as humans have created.

    So, while you may not see any direct answers to "Is there a God", "Where do we come from", and "Why are we here", immediately, there is no doubt that those questions and the attempts to answer them by various individuals and groups will advance us as a whole by leaps and bounds in the future, just as those questions have done for us in the past.
     
  8. emsterino

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    yeah, thats exactly how i feel.
     
  9. Acouwaila

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    it seems like all the people looking so hard for answers wouldn't look right past the fact that theres a ton of opinions and theories out there...and that ........based on the information that should've been gathered throughout their personal experience with life... ...maybe....they are wrong....and will never find an answer because they are part of the subject.

    imagine the molecules on one piece of a 23980980298928983001011010 piece puzzle attempting to solve the whole puzzle....but this puzzle is 4 dimensional and extends in every direction forever....what the fuck are we looking for...we ARE simply...a part of it...the bigger picture...
     
  10. Freedom_Man

    Freedom_Man Senior Member

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    yah dude thats what i think, i mean jsut think about how much we dont know in comparison to how little we think we know.

    we haven't even really explored our own galaxy, and we still have mysteries and shit about our own solar system which is part of many more in just our galaxy and that plus billions of other galixies plus parts of the universe we haven't even seen yet, shit dude. we dont know shit.
     
  11. Geechee

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    That's about how it is. Hell , we are only capably of using 5-10% of one half of our brain at a time.

    Assuming that there is a question we should be asking , maybe it would be us asking what actually does matter, if anything matters. Philosophy and religion are both simple theories , axoims to occupy the mind.

    People get so wrapped up in "it" that they go as far as to use religious and philosophical texts as a point of reference or the standard of truth. " Place your hand on the Bible.......don't do that , it goes against teh Qu'ran......yadda yadda blah blah......". Shit , our money evn says "in god we trust" , not that it bothers me , I could care less what it says or who worships what.

    I just can't stand patriotic and religious fanatics who think that there way is teh "right way" and that anyone else is wrong or an infidel or an abomination. But it's not even that that bothers me because everyone has a right to think what they want. It just pisses me off when their ideals and beliefs are forced on to other people.
     
  12. Eugene

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    that's an urban legend, with no real basis in science. we use pretty much all of our brain, even if we don't quite understand why or how.
    the fact is that the development of our brain really peaked tens of thousands of years ago, while our need to process information has grown exponentially.

    anyways, philosophy matters because it's a basic human need to be curious, and basic human needs matter.
     
  13. Geechee

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    Then how do we know that we use "pretty much" all of our brain?
     
  14. Eugene

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    We can use PET and MRI scans to measure activity across the whole brain, or we can go low-tech and simply interview and test stroke victims.


    Snopes has a pretty good article on the origins of the ten percent myth.

    http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp

    Just to tie this all back into the OP. This myth is a good example of how people like to latch on to the number 10, possibly because in a lot of cultures you learn to count on your fingers, as well as having a 10-based number system.
    It also is appealing to think that we have a lot of untapped potential, and that we are capable of being much greater than we currently are.

    both of these are largely philosophical (or at least philosophy-based) concepts, and both are important because humans are important.
     
  15. Geechee

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    So then we still aren't capable of using our entire brain at one time at will then? Or at least that's what I extrapolate from that article.

    I wasn't implying that we only use 10% of the physical mass , but 10% of the potential (which has been proven erroneous anyway).

    Even though we may use more , according to this article , we still don't know everything there is to know about the brain. We've (homosapiens) have "only" been around for about 200,000 years. Relatively short time when you look at the big picture. So there may be some untapped potential .Not like w've already reached our pinnacle.

    That 10 thing is pretty interesting too. I never thought about that.
     
  16. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure that using your entire brain at the same time is called a seizure.
     
  17. Olympic-Bullshitter

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    The less you do with seafood, the better it is.
     
  18. clegg

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    I like phylosophy, I like sociology.


    It's so great to see how different people percieve the world around us. Putting yourself in their frame of mind, sometimes it can all make perfect sense, sometimes it just misguides you from what you think your beliefs are.


    It makes the world make sense to me, when you use a global perspective to see how others percieve the world, and how they manage to justify the rights and some of the wrong things they do.
     

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