Opiates and Depression

Actually, what effect do all of the recreational drugs have on depression, do you think? All I use is opiate tea, but it doesn't seem to give me a hangover. Pills used to, but not any more. I've read somewhere that opiates for depression is a bad idea.

Fuck. Depression is real, and it's like cancer or a gross skin disease: it just fucking sucks any way you look at it.

 

Cant help you there my friend, Im sorry. I've olny felt TRUELY depressed once in my life; which was a mixture of depression and severy anxiety. Its was over some family shit which I caused.

Other than that, I've lived my whole life without depression and zero regrets. Where opiates fit in, Im am unsure and even confused, unless you use them regularly for recreational purposes. And after a long-term use, one of the symptoms of withdrawals is depression I believe..

 

Opiates temporarily cure depression for me when I take percs or oxy. When I come down its the same as it was before not worse not better. Still a bad idea, I dont fuck with pills anymore and I feel much better.

 

look at the history of famous depressives who used opiates... they got addicted and either overdosed or killed themselves.
i don't think they usually do much to help a person out of their depression, but i can definitely understand the mindset where it feels like the only option.

 

There no good for depression. It messes with your brain chemistry, and although i relieves pain and depression temporarily, it comes back worst than before.

 

Yea if you use opiates long-term , when you get clean it takes a long time be become happy again, opiates are a hell of a drug.

 

well god damn. i'm not too fond of pot.

i've used opium tea on and off for two years with like three-month gaps in there, same with the pot. i can't get ahold of much else besides an occasional upper.

my depression is severe, but i hold down a good job (barely). the depression is so powerful and pervasive that drugs have been what makes me feel best. without the pain, i'm like a different person: i get things done. Life is not a nightmare.

but you're right, opium did and can put my emotions on a roller-coaster. too bad. i had my dance with alcohol years ago, i guess i can walk away from opiates too.

 

Dam Man,
The only time I get depressed is when run short on my monthly scripts
Now thats really something to get depressed about. LOL
I'm getting back surgery next week, then hopefully I won't need these meds anymore..At least for awhile I hope..

 

oh SHIT...

withdrawals...

i didn't know i'd gotten so hooked on this shit.

the extremely unpleasant insomnia and "body trip" are there like the fabled time a few summers ago when i quit cold turkey in a similar way, but this isn't as intense (there were more drugs invloved.) still...

brewed a 2/3 stregth cup to offset the w/d. doesn't seem to be doing much. fuck toughing it out, i'm tapering... but i gotta get rid of this shit, it fucks with my depression.

 

Stay strong man , it's not gonna be easy, but it will be worth it.

 

Me too man. Mine is on Friday. What day is yours? Mine is a L5-S1 discectomy. What about you?

 

w/d's fading. But I think this is cool turkey, if weekend use is available then I'll take it. But the w/ds have gone. thank you for the support.

 

I think if you have moderation and don't take recreational doses daily, sticking to therapeutic doses during your "low periods"--not for boredom relief, a daily escape from reality, or an emotional crutch--opiates can be a dream for depression and anxiety. (I'm not talking heroin or oxy so much as hydro, codeine, and opiate teas and such). It's been shown to be twice as effective as Prozac in alleviating depression, but isn't considered a good candidate because of it's short-acting nature and potential for addiction.

 

i agree, actually. but if you have enough stability and control to manage using opiates without having problems, it seems you'd have enough stability and control not to have to.

 

I cant understand how some people aren't fond of pot like someone said earlier.. for me, weed is the best stress-reducer and anxiolitic in existence. nothing makes me happier in the world, except 4 pussy.

like katt williams said in his stand-up, weed has a chemical in it called fuck it. if u aint got a job and u aint smoking weed i dont know what the fuck u are doing with ur life! LMAO! i believe that shit is the sooo true.

But honestly, i dont think there isnt anything weed cant cure emotional-wise. people just dont appreciate weed like before. its truely the ultimate wonder drug. the only thing it cant cure is stupidity.

 

yea, is that the skit where he talks about his session with snoop dog? that shit is hilarious.

 

yezzir! i almost cried from laughter watching that shit.

but seriously, im done with opiates for a while, atleast a couple of months. just gonna drink n take xanax occasionally. and the reason why sucks. oxy just isnt working like it used to.. even when i upped my dosage it barely worked

 

alot of people will disagree with me but I think opiates could have a place in treating depression, certaintly if it becomes a dependence issue and serves to make you withdraw from healthy social interactions then it will make it worse. But when things are really bad, it makes one feel at least okay for a while, this when coupled with other anti-depressing activities may be usefull to alleviate the depression. Dosages need to be kept in control, and I don't know how frequently or for how long it can be done.

 

Interesting points, agrees with my experience at least. about opiates. I'm a little older, as you can see, so I'm not looking 4 attention when I say I suffer from severe depression. It gets bad. It got bad today. But see, I'm not shitting stomach acid or otherwise withdrawing, and I was ready to hang myself, so I made myself a pot of tea.

I don't know if it was the tea or not, but since then I've been out of bed and getting the mundane life shit done: calling work, paying bills, exercise, boring stuff like that.

I'm not a junkie, I never have been. It's just that I fear even one cup of tea will spell worse depression tomorrow. We'll see. I have a full cup left (the pot made about 1.5 cups) and I'm still, y'know, up and not thinking about suicide.

Pot, i dunno. I think it befogs me afterwards, makes me groggy. I don't like that about it, it's like heavy drinking to me. But opiates can certainly do the same thing. I admit I went overboard with them, dosing myself when I didn't really need it.

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There have been several periods of time in my life when I fall into a pretty deep depression, where for weeks on end Im depressed to the point where I may not even get out of bed much for days on end. It can get so bad at times, that I feel like my brain has forgotten how to perceive the world in a positive way.

Opiates on a couple of occasions have managed to pull me out of this. Of course, initially the opiates make me happy because Im high... but this high allows me to view my life from a positive perspective, essentially reminding me that life can be good, its all in how you look at it.

At this point, its up to me to keep this positive attitude, and apply it to my life once the drug weares off, and I have been succesfull with this several times. The trick is not to fall into using opiates regularily as a crutch...