my wife's 1st time?

great posts. many thanks to both of you. i find this thread very interesting as i have also been recently considering introducing my wife to E as well for the first time. being an avid psychonaut myself, she has never experienced an altered state of any kind before (in fact, i don't even think she knows what "exctasy is!), so i'm not really sure what her reaction will be when i start to talk to her about it. my hope is that if she is open to discussing it, and then willing to give it a go, it will help us to become closer as we could gain a better understanding and appreciation for each other as individuals, life partners, and the beauty of the world that surrounds us. of course, my biggest fear is that she will be totally against the idea and thus resent me, which would then significantly increase the gap between us. plus, we are also both from different cultural backgrounds (she is asian and i am north american), so naturally, this also proves to be a challenging road for us to navigate at times. so i'm really hoping that by sharing a very special and euphoric experience such as this - together, it just might help us to transcend many of our differences and bring our relationship into a new realm of elevated awareness, mindfulness, perspective and love. but then again, it could also backfire! any thoughts or comments would be much appreciated. namaste.

 

well not knowing too much about her other than an asian heritage, i'd probably go with an angle involving historical accounts of sages and visionaries of her ancestry using psychoactive plants and drugs as sacraments to access the godhead, or something like that. I don't even know how influential psychoactives were in the history of her culture, but I believe that pure religion all around the world has its roots in psychoactive sacraments.

help her understand that drugs are neither good nor bad themselves, they're just tools. A shovel can kill a person, or it can plant a tree. The drug experience is seen as dangerous and foolish, but that's only because the drug market is controlled by criminals and there's no public knowledge about the enormous healing and good that they can facilitate because the responsible drug users are good at hiding it and staying under the radar.

In any case, don't be too persistent. Give some info about it, and intermittently tell her some cool or profound or love-filled thing that the drug helped you achieve. If you demonstrate that drugs can actually be used to increase mental and spiritual health, she might warm up to it.

 

thanks, all good advice bb. i plan to introduce her to the subject slowly, (no pressure whatsoever), in a positive, honest, sensitive, and informative way. so, we'll see what happens. i actually haven't done e for about 7 years now (i prefer lsd), so hopefully it will be a refreshing experience for me too, if it all works out.

cheers.

 

by the way bb, should my wife have any specific questions and would also like a third person opinion from a couple who has already experienced this scenario... would it be possible to use you and your wife as a reference? i would really like to show her both of your postings here, that is if we actually reach that stage of discussion. it just might help her to feel more comfortable knowing that other couples are successfully experimenting with methods such as these. again, i'm not so much trying to give her the hard sell, but i just want her to be informed, regardless of what she chooses to do.

 

absolutely. i'm eager to see more and more people discover the enormous benefits of psychotropics when approached in certain ways and that the limitlessness of our being is more apparent as a result. you can PM me if you want or keep it a public dialogue, idc

 

many thanks, that's very kind of you... so, we'll see how discussions go over the next while... but i have a feeling that after she learns more about it, she will probably be open to trying it once, especially if she fully understands that the intention of this shared experience comes purely out of love and the honest desire to become closer to one another, not out of reckless abuse and irresponsibility. there is just so much blind anti-drug propaganda out there, so it can be quite a challenge to actually sift through all of that crap, and really get down to the heart and truth of it all. anyhow, i'll keep you posted. cheers mate.