Greenpeace and activists

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Spacer, Oct 2, 2004.

  1. Spacer

    Spacer 'Enlighten yourself'

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    I was watching the news today and they had the story about the plutonium being shipped from the US to France and showed some greenpeace activists out in England protesting as it was passsing english waters. I couldn't help feeling that they were wasting their time. So much things one that could protest about that it's depressing. What makes it even more depressing is that protesting doesn't achieve anything most of the time.
     
  2. iiaajmn

    iiaajmn Banned

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    Oh, I think there's much to suggest that protesting has accomplished very much, but when you are ignorant of those successes or take them for granted, then it's easy to say that it's "just a waste of time".
     
  3. Granolahead

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    Well it caught your attention and im sure many others to so the protests worked a little =)
     
  4. Spacer

    Spacer 'Enlighten yourself'

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    I'm aware of quiet a few of the success especially the major greenpeace ones outlined here http://www.greenpeace.org/international_en/victory/ but I just sometimes feel that some of the protests are a waste of time. I know I was probably being very negative, but when you see how much damage is being done to the planet and realise how little governments and big business care it tends to bring out the negative.
     
  5. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I think its is good that one source of nuclear weapon material is being turned into a non nuclear weapon material.. i think i heard that these shipments have been going on for 15 years with no incident .. and the facilitys to change the material are going to be built in america and russia.. of course if you think nuclear anything is wrong then anything connected to it is wicked and nothing should be moved shiped produced whatever..so i am not suprised greenpeace are 'protesting' .

    thought this http://www.greatdreams.com/willie-flotilla.htm http://www.cogema-inc.com/ was a lot more intresting than the greenpeace site..I can never find much information on their site apart from who is making secret files on their activities and how wonderful they are..:rolleyes: ok i don't like greenpeace.
     
  6. MikeE

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    The protesting did one good thing. It taught you and others that there was plutonium being shipped from the US to France. Drawing attention to a practice is the first step in stopping it.
     
  7. iiaajmn

    iiaajmn Banned

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    Well, matthew, in my opinion I think that "nuclear anything" is wicked--how can't you? While nothing may have occured during transportation of this material, the potential is still there. Moreover, we have adverse side effects from years of nuclear testing, as well as problems such as the potential contamination of of parts of the ocean from the former Soviet navy's submarine fleet.
     
  8. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    This is true.. well partly , i heard that greenpeace were kicking up a stink about it so a little indirectly , i will give them that. Should i have been worried well possibly. I thought Greenpeace was for non proliferation .. this is doing that ??.I dislike Greenpeace for its arogance not for what they do as such , its just they can never be satisfied and always assume they are right (IMHO). I see the slim risk of something happening weighed up with at least 3 nations trying their best to get rid of pontential nuclear bomb material a good thing ... it maybe for profit but so what.

    So i guess i was made aware of it , but take another view that it is a positive not a negative . I have no real problem with nuclear technology and understand the basics of the risks involved , I can't get to paniked about it i am afraid. Maybe i am living in cloud cuckoo land.
     
  9. Spacer

    Spacer 'Enlighten yourself'

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    That's true folks, despite the fact that the protesting doesn't stop it, it still does higlight that fact that it's going on. I don't agree with Nucear energy at all, I mean look at Cherynobyl, we can't afford another scenario like that.
     
  10. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Cherynobyl was bad for us not as such for the enviroment .. Plus only 3 or 4 major accidents have occured in the history of nuclear energy .. But you say you don't agree with nuclear power at all wich is fair enough. I think Nuclear power is a under used source...but a bit of hesitancy from people like yourself ..stops full throttle expansion i guess.. bit of checks and balances ???
     
  11. Granolahead

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    My problem with nuclear energy is not the risk of a meltdown or any disaster like that(which is very very small chance of happening) but once you get the energy you have to store the radioactive waste/byproduct somewhere? Even getting the material has its risks. i used to live close to an area where they were planning on mining for uranium, im glad they never went through with that project.
     
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