i wanna try salvia but i dont know where to start!!! any1 have any suggestions?? can i smoke it out of a bong or should i roll it?? should i get extract or leaves!!??
Around here you can pick up some decent salvia in any headshop. Salvia is fucking NASTY so you want the smoothest hitting bong you can find. You will have to put the bong down after a few hits once it kicks in because you laugh like a motherfucker, but make sure you get at least 3 hits in and hold them as long as possible. I've never had extracts but you really don't wanna overdo it the first time. Make sure you're in a safe environment because In my experience people on salvia tend to wander off. Make sure you have a sufficient amount and a decent x (i did 60X my first time and it was decent) It doesn't last very long so enjoy while it lasts.
I get the feeling people wander off while on SD is because of how annoying other peoples voices can get.
If its your first time i would try 10x. you NEED to smoke it out of a bong or a pipe. I would suggest a bong or some type of waterpipe as the smoke is pretty harsh. 1/10g of 10x will be enough for you to trip pretty hard, just make sure when you light it to keep the flame over the salvia the entire time, the active chemicals needs to get pretty hot to be released into the air. I would suggest buying your stuff online too, the stuff in my local head shops is really overpriced and you really never know what your getting. I normaly order my stuff from Bouncing Bear Botanicals
make sure to burn it for about 2-3 seconds litterally before you suck the smoke in, you need a huge hit and you need to hold it for a long time to get the full effect. as for your questions. bouncingbearbotanicals.com should do nicely to buy from (its where i got my shit) buy x10 or x15 for your first time, standardized extracts are best, more stable less variable. smoke from a bong preferably, a pipe if u dont have access to a bong. put it down after 1 or 2 hits because you will get fucked if you hit it right.
I second the above! Anything less than 10x and you probably won't get anything out of it. First hit you might not feel anything. But when it does hit you, it'll hit you like a truck. And I hate saying it like this, but hold it in until you're about ready to choke! And Bouncing bear is VERY reputable-Got my first 10X from them. I've also got some 30X from Alien Things, will let you know how that one goes. And BTW, it is a VERY hard smoke, tastes like shit and stinks. But the experience is definitely worth it!:cheers2:
Some good advice here...you dont need a torch lighter, because it will burn up all the salvia to quickly. Just hold a lighter flame over it for a couple seconds to get it good and HOT! Then suck in a big hit and hold it in till you cant anymore. Normally i am tripping before i let the 2nd hit out Joints suck, a bowl, pipe, or bong will work. First time id say 10X-20X, but first time smokers dont feel the effects sometimes...it took me 4 tries to get it to work.
i agree with everything above. 1) have a sitter wholl make sure you dont wander off (you may feel overwhelming urges to go do something insignifigant -Ie: grab a different lighter from the other room) 2) use bong and 15X or 20X 3) hold flame to plant material ENTIRE TIME-its got a relatively high vaporization point 4) use bong while on table, because salvia hits fast and hard 5) hold in first hit for at least 3 seconds, then quickely take another larger hit that you will hold until you cough it out 6) typically it is more intense/overwhelming if you are standing up. 7) prepare for 2-5 minutes of minor delirium where you will realise that marijuana is little stronger then tobacco
:iagree: Adding my voice to the masses to second all the above. And, btw, make sure even if they are a cool sitter, they'll shut up long enough to let you hear what the voices are trying telling you! That was so damn annoying, I love my friend Becky, dearly--but it took every ounce of the limited rationale I had left NOT to tell her to shut the f*** up, while I was tripping. Although, I think she understands better now, and she was just trying to look out for me (I'm not the shitheel, I appear to be). I've got my 20X--and if my experiences have been anything to go by, I'll try that before the 30X. Only caveat to the experience, is the spinning feeling of dropping down the rabbit hole. It's not enough to make you vomit, but it can be a bit unnerving. The prickly feeling was bizarre as well, but hey!! It's all about the experience and what you can learn from it, eh?:cheers2: As for Alien Things and Bouncing Bear, they're both (allegedly) lab quality distributors. Bouncing Bear's stuff is usually good, Alien Things--jury's out on them, I'm probably going to try their product soon, since I got my 30X from them and its eating a whole in my stash!! I'll let you know what I think: http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/ethnobotanicals-salvia-divinorum-c-60_28.html http://www.alienthings.com/salvia_divinorum_20x_extract.html
thanks guys...i went out and bought some 20x for 24$ a container i got 2....i have to say its great... some questions though some people have said that they have seen colors i only saw a purple dot once of the few times i got high is this normal or should i be seeing more colors?? any way i think its fantastic and will check out where you guys get your stuff!
It sounds complicated when you read a quide about how to extract on the internet. All you need to do is powder the leaves, and shake them in a jar of isopropic alcohol. Do so a couple times, store the alcholol and let it evaporate, what is left is the dark gunky Salvitorin A.
and then is that the highest extract you can make??? will it be enough to give me visuals? do you strain the liquid to get rid of the plant matter?
From my limited experience, make sure you're sitting down! It comes on fast, and I wasn't able to even move my toes for that few minutes. And though I didn't mind the taste pr smell of the salvia at all, myself, you may not. Also, a bong is your friend! And I'll admit, it's hard to type at the moment, since I'm still coming down from as salvia trip, aha. Even though the trip only lasts a few minutes, you still won't be "sober" for a little while after.