I need some clarification. My dealer hangs out with people that seem like they are just normal pot head/stoner kids using drugs just to get high and nothing else. I don't understand how people can take LSD just to get high. I use it for the mind expansion to help learn about myself and about the world around me and to harness my creativity. This is something that's been bothering me for a while. Does LSD affect the person depending on how he/she is using it? How can people abuse LSD?
Oh it's quite simple, everyone is different Buddha Fish and everyone does different things for different reasons. However we all get high from LSD, the more you get out of it is up to how well your mind can swim through confusion and find a greater purpose
Maybe you just got a bad impression from the people. I can't imagine people taking lsd regularly and not after awhile begin to see the benefits from it.
Nah you might be suprised, I've met some people who would blow you away with their simplicity. Simpletons, I like to call em
yeah my friend to name one. he trips and doesn't question a single thing about anything. it's all fun for him. I dont see a problem with him doing whatever he wants with his own life and thinking how he wants to.
I know exactly what you mean. Some people have this "lets get fucked up" attitude towards acid. The fact is that these people are too far into the illusion to see acid for what it is. To them, its just pretty colors. I just say whatever, its their mind. My friends always act like Im the one who's being a downer when I dont want to drop and go to a party, and I almost pity them, because they dont get anything out of it. Its gotten to the point where i dont even feel comfortable being around my friends when I trip, because they prevent my meditation. I really hate people saying things like 'fried', and 'tripping balls', it de-legitimizes the entire psychedelic culture.
My advice to the serious type, perhaps this doesn't apply to anyone here, : If your friends are happy, why would you want to take that away from them? Maybe they know something you don't know. Who can judge how someone else trips? I say relax, live and let live. Howling with laughter can be such a zen and meditatitive act in itself. Try not being attached to your self image as a serious psychonaut, and who knows, maybe you can have a bit of fun while you explore your mind and the world around you.
I agree with the poster above me. I find that doing psychedelics have made me realize I should have fun in life. Get your shit done and party hard. Don't be so serious about everything, because nothing matters. Have fun and explore yourself while you do it.
You should read the part in Electric Coolaid Acid Test where the pranksters meet up with the Hells Angels and take acid with them. I don't remember it very well, but it articulates this discussion pretty well I think. Something about some of the Hells Angels just saying, "Haw Haw Haw Haw." (Nothing against Hells Angels. I'm sure some of them are very smart and profound.) (Actually....read the whole book if you haven't.)
my ups to sheerwackiness and otherean- part of the spiritual, serious part of psychedelics is having a lot of fucking fun. its all about breaking down the boundaries of conscious life, why can't that include getting loaded?
u guys make it seem like LSD isnt fun. its fun for me, yeah i do learn a lot from it, but come on, u have to admit, everything is fucking hilarious, and its like a mental rollercoaster. if theres one thing i learned from sid, is to not take life so seriously. learn to have fun and gain something from it.
lol i get great kicks knowing that everyone around me is stuck id mundane "sober" reality and im seeing everything through a new, polished lense. many giggles but i have never roared with laughter. i need to work on just turning my mind off and not trying to have revelations because they should just come to me. perhaps a higher dose will do the trick. damn this ego.....
well at first i treated acid very seriously but since school got out a couple weeks ago and i got a very reliable dealer with a good hook up i been doing acid a bunch and i now come to realize how much fucking fun it can be. dont get mad, it can be used just as well recreationly as spiritually, but im sure a bunch of people would disagree, this just happens to be my opinion
Well just as much as i hate the idea of someone useing lsd to just get fucked up, like those idiots that appear to have no concience and will just pop random pills to trip balls I hate those people who claim lsd is only for spiritual use Its a substance, whoever can use it for whatever purposes I like to experience the effects it has on my mind, the visuals and synesthesia and all that jazz I like to listen to music on it and other things, sure i dont get an epiphany out of each trip or a revelation about my past and present life but i can do whatever the fuck i want
I didnt mean to come off sounding like Im against fun. Acid is one of the most euphoric and fun drugs Ive taken. Its like being a kid again, everything's full of wonder. But when I trip I have a stream of revelations pouring into my head, and I have to pay attention to them. When Im around a lot of people, I cant focus at all, and I feel like Im wasting the experience. Everyone has their own method of meditation, thats why I dont hassle my friends about the way they take acid. I just know when I feel like tripping, and when I feel like just chilling. I dont think there are recreational and spiritual drugs, its up to the person using it, but for me I'll take sitting quietly over a party any time.
I figure you can trip IN or you can trip OUT. People who tend to only eat LSD by themselves for personal discovery will quickly discover themselves in a cirlce. Why go back to learn the same thing time and again? You would be using the LSD like a "drug" then too. I prefer to trip OUT, and connect with those around me, and just do my thing loud and proud. I try to express love for everyone around me and allow myself to flow with the energies around me. Acid is not somthing that people tend to abuse. If you start abusing LSD, it'll abuse you back.
