does god still love me?

If god didn't want gay men, then there wouldn't be, would they? I'm gay and i can't get away from the fact, but i also believe that there is a god and he loves me regardless of my sexuality.
So i pose the question...
where exactly in the bible does god say gays aren't alowed?

 

you don't need the Christian "God" to approve of you. Christianity is very corrupt. "God" is everywhere... God is love, energy, creation, creativity, the universe. CHristianity is a set of rules to scare you.
Be free.

 

I believe its Leviticus 18:22 where it says to lay with another man is abomination. A farely unbiased review of this verse can be found here, but like with all of Christianity, it's not very clear and it varies from denomination to denomination and from translation to translation. What you SHOULD be asking yourself is, how can you be sure that the Christian god is THE god, let alone if there is any god, period. If all of a sudden, all traces of the bible were to disappear (or if it had never existed), what could a person point to to say the Christian god exists? The short answer is NOTHING. Unlike a science book, there is nothing to recreate our understanding of an invisable friend in the sky. If we got rid of all science books, we could rebuild the science books from the same data that was available when they were created. In otherwords, if there were no science books, we could still come up with a theory of Gravitation, physics, biology, etc. We can't do that with any god, there is no repeatable evidence for invisable friends who love you, but will send you to an unevidenced hell in an unevidenced afterlife.

 

first of all, let me just say that the bible does not say "gays aren't allowed"..

the act of homosexuality is what is looked down upon and regarded as a sin, not just the mere fact of existing as a gay individual.

ever heard of "love the sinner hate the sin?"

but that's from a fundamentalist standpoint. Personally, I believe a God of love would embrace ALL forms of love. gay, straight, whatever.

 

What does this solve? Ever hear of a gay person who didn't have gay sex? Part of Christianity is to realize you've sinned, ask for forgiveness and to stop doing that sin to the best of your ability, i.e. REPENT. Yes, Christians are suppose to "hate the sin, love the sinner", but this doesn't exclude one from the wrath of God, assuming he exists the way the bible says he exists. Why believe in ancient homophobes in the first place? Without the bible, what can you point to that says the Christian god exists?

 

actually, I clearly stated that I dont subscribe to the belief that homosexuality is wrong, and stated what I thought about it at the end of my previous post. Maybe you should ask a fundamentalist those questions if you are having trouble.

also, this thread is about picas questioning his sexual orientation in conjuction with the fundamentalist christian belief system, not a thread about whether or not the christian god exist.

please stay on topic.

 

it is like, "i am a satanist, if god did not like satanists then there wouldnt be any..." or " i am a thief, if god didnot want any, there wouldnt be any.."goes on and on...
no logic in such a defense...!

 

dont worry, god would send you another messenger or holy book if all that you assume happened...this, is also unlogical defense...

 

lol fed, pretending to be a hedonist now?

 

yeah, the bible. seriously, there's some whacked out stuff in there that's CLEARLY based on societal needs and survival. let it go. at the time, people were desperate to maintain a certain reproductive schedule and had a very limited understanding of the spread of disease. not so much a problem of lack of knowledge anymore.

anti-adultery? of course. you gotta be able to provide for your babies and wanton sex leads frequently to wanton physical destruction through STD's. okay, got it.

a lot of the things that are listed as sins are VERY practical matters. the problems of homosexuality, adultery, eating pork, etc., were very practical matters for the time. i don't think morality came into it until later, when people forgot why the hell they arrived at those guidelines in the first place and made some mythical commandment/holy rule for it.

 

so mama, you define what the terms "good" and "evil " stand for...

 

Of course I still love you.

 

evil: deliberate harm to another human being, viciousness, cruelty, etc.
good: NOT HARMING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. (as well as other things that are very nice, like picking up after yourself and helping people and such.)

 

oh my god, christianity is really corrupt...or else what should provoke these ppl to such manners...
will u say satan?

 

your description of the terms are humanistic. so, no kind of supreme power is accepted? no creator?
if so, will u explain our being a "being" by absurd stories of evolution , coincidence, etc etc?

 

not really sure, but i sure like being here. i'm more concerned wtih what's in front of me than something that people go at each other's throats over.

 

btw, i really like jesus, though. rebelling against religious legalism and corrupt structures, to the point of dying for it. yeah, but then it got all buggered up again because people just can't help themselves. but what can you do? we love beaurocracy.

 

i know "cut and paste "way is not welcomed here, but i prefer posting the text of those well knowing ones instead of mine...
the following text, chosen among many, is intented to give some different perspective to any of you, who really wants to stand on stable belief...
read it if u like, ignore if u dont...but no blasphemy pls, and no rude remarks...


The Twenty-Ninth Word This, the Twenty-Ninth Word, is about the Immortality
of Man’s Spirit, the Angels, and the Resurrection.
In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.
Therein came down the angels and the Spirit by the permission of their Sustainer.1 * Say: The Spirit [comes] by command of my Sustainer.2
[This treatise consists of an Introduction and two main Aims]
Introduction
It may be said that the existence of the angels and spirit beings is as definite as that of human beings and animals. Indeed, as is explained in the First Step of the Fifteenth Word, reality undoubtedly requires and wisdom certainly demands that like the earth the heavens have inhabitants, and that its inhabitants are intelligent, and suitable for the heavens. In the tongue of the Shari‘a, those inhabitants, of which there are numerous kinds, are called angels and spirit beings.
Reality requires it to be thus. For despite the earth’s smallness and insignificance in relation to the heavens, its being filled with intelligent beings and from time to time being emptied and then refilled with new ones suggests —indeed, states clearly— that the heavens too, with their majestic constellations like adorned palaces, are filled with animate creatures, the light of the light of existence, and conscious and intelligent creatures, the light of animate creatures. Like man and the jinn, those creatures are spectators of the palace of the world, and ponderers over the book of the universe, and heralds of this realm of dominicality. With their universal and comprehensive worship, they represent the glorification of the large and universal beings in the universe.
The nature of the universe surely points to their existence. For since it is embellished and decked out with uncountable numbers of finely adorned works of art and meaningful decorations and wise embroideries, it self-evidently requires the gazes of thoughtful admirers and wondering, appreciative lovers; it demands their existence. Yes, just as beauty requires a lover, so is food is given to the hungry. Thus, the sustenance of spirits and nourishment of hearts in this boundless beauty of art looks to the angels and spirit beings; it points to them. For while this infinite adornment requires an infinite duty of contemplation and worship, man and the jinn can perform only a millionth of that infinite duty, that wise supervision, that extensive worship. This means that boundless varieties of angels and spirit beings are necessary to perform those duties, and to fill and inhabit the mighty mosque of the world with their ranks.
Indeed, a species of the spirit beings and angels is present in every aspect, in every sphere, of the universe, each charged with a duty of worship. It may be said according to both the narrations of Hadiths and the wisdom in the order of the world that from lifeless planets and stars to raindrops, all are ships or vehicles for a kind of angel. The angels mount these vehicles with Divine permission and travel observing the Manifest World; they represent their praise and glorification.
It also may be said that certain sorts of living bodies act as aeroplanes for different kinds of spirits. From the birds of Paradise, called the Green Birds in a Hadith which says: “The spirits of the people of Paradise enter into Green Birds in the Intermediate Realm and travel around Paradise in them,”3 to flies, each is a vehicle for a sort of spirit. The spirits enter into them at a Divine command, and through the faculties and senses of those living bodies like the eyes and ears, observe the miracles of creation in the corporeal world. They perform the particular glorification of each.
Just as reality necessitates it to be thus, so does wisdom. For, with an intense activity, the All-Wise Maker continuously creates subtle life and luminous intelligent beings from dense earth, which has little connection with spirit, and from turbid water, which has small relation with the light of life. He surely then creates certain sorts of intelligent beings from the seas of light and even from the oceans of darkness, from the air, electricity, and other subtle matter suitable for spirit and appropriate for life. And surely these creatures are exceedingly numerous.

 

yeah, not real big on that whole religious book thing.