Iowa immigration raid largest ever in U.S.

them continuing to stay here??

geeze man quit blaming them and blame the true guilty party your own government..

you sure seem to pass the buck a helluva lot.. im not sure if you do it for the sake of argument or your really that naive to the reality of it all...

 

http://www.problogs.com/Post4137.htm
Woes in American Economy has effect on Mexico


One would think that the American economy would be our problem and not another country’s but reports show that a downturn in our economy is causing severe financial distress in Mexico.

Many Mexican families, who have relied on family members in the U.S. sending them some of their wages every month, are now seeing those monies curtailed or completely lost.

The practice of earning American dollars and sending some of them home to Mexico is called remittance by Mexican officialsand the remittances are a chief factor in the economy of Mexico which shows just how inept their government is at creating any jobs.

Last year, almost $24 billion was sent back to Mexico making the remittances the second highest source of income topped only by oil exports. Yes, remittances even topped the heavy Mexican tourism trade for income last year. It is obvious the Mexican government has no idea how to create a stable economy and so their failures are thrust on our country. That $24 billion easily could have been used to purchase goods and services right here thus stimulating our economy rather than being spent keeping another’s from falling into abject poverty.

The Mexican government, which keeps track of remittances, states January’s payments into their country were down almost 7 percent compared with the year before and showed the steepest drop in 13 years. They keep track of this statistic because remittances are a lifeblood to their economy’s staggering failures.

There are many factors believed to have caused the downtown in money coming into Mexico. In some cases, legal immigrants have lost their homes with the sub prime fiasco. Others have lost their construction jobs or had their hours cut back to the point they have little left to send back home. In still other cases, illegals have not been able to find any work and thus they have nothing to send back to their families.

This crisis is having resounding effects on the Mexican impoverished but the repercussions will soon be felt here in the U.S.

It is feared that with no jobs available and income from families in the U.S. drying up, that more Mexicans will try to cross the border looking for the Promised Land. The problem is the promises in this land are also drying up. Keeping our own economy afloat in these trying times is difficult enough. Trying to also salvage the economy of a country that has no model and no plan for creating work just makes the situation all the more impossible for us.

The borders are open between Mexico and America. The number of illegals will only grow as we continue to not protect our own interests. As long as we continue to spend billions on health care, welfare, food stamps and other aid for people whose own government should be paying these bills, the recession and the border problem will only get worse.

The blame is on us for allowing this to happen and certainly not on the desperate Mexican people who are trying to survive. If they can’t find jobs, or receive money in Mexico then they will come here and join the millions who receive tax money from us. It won’t stop until we put an end to taking care of the population of another country that has an obligation to take care of their own.

There is nothing good to come out of exporting jobs but there is also nothing good out of seeing wages earned in this country also exported. The days of our strong economy propping up another nation are over. We are already beyond any reasonable allowance of national debt and nothing we are currently doing is going to make anything better. Mexico has in effect become our welfare state and we don’t have the money to do the job. The turnstile is open and Mexican officials are waving good bye to their obligations as they head north asking us for help.

 

[assuming you are talking to me]

ireland, poland and italy

or russia, poland and italy

or holland, poland and italy

depends on whose story you believe [my family is pretty fucked up]

to be fair, by the time my ancestors [whichever] got here the previous illegals had written laws making them legal

the legal inhabitants were mostly dead or safely segregated by then . . .

 

it's too hot in mexico

they come for our cool breezes

who are you to deny anyone a cool breeze?

 

bit more than a cool breeze here this morning.. its 40 fucking degrees.. BRRRRRRRRRRR..

god damn this global warming......

 

Kosher food is the most expensive food in the supermarket.


ever price out Hebrew National hot dogs?

Surely these folks can afford to pay good wages. Let me ask
where are the unions in all of this? What is preventing that plant from being unionized?

 

the hell of it is,the "kosher" slaughter process is one of the most inhumane,unsanitary,and in my opinion UNKOSHER things ive ever witnessed in my life..

let me clarify.. i am not a animal rights wacko. we operate a working farm here and slaughter our own animals,and i have no problem with the meat processing industry as a whole,,but this shits FUCKED UP!!!

If i am not mistaken , the video below is of the same "kosher" processing plant as was raided.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=O-ascm17R9A

 

oh and let me ask you? if the illegals didnt have those jobs,would you work there for 8 dollars a hour?

i rest my case..

why are they not union? simple,its the same as the poultry processing industry,as soon as someone whispers union,the legal workers are threatened with the plant being moved out of the country and the illegals are threatened with a immigration raid.
i assure you,the meat packing industry as a whole would have no problem packing up and heading south.afterall argentina and brazil own most of the meat packing plants in america anyway..

 

it is 53 right now

53 in eastern montana in may at 5 in the morning?

yesterday it was nearly 80

but as you know [being a farmer rather than a mere gardener] climate change is a massive longtime big-scale kinda thing

the thing that no one talks about is that climatologists have been predicting drought for north america for a while now--supposedly this century will be much drier than the last--notwithstanding al gore's buying and selling of carbon credits

[will have to find where i'd read this--more than one place--and get more details]

we are the new anasazi

 

at this point i might consider it

mrs wica and i need to make around $20 a day to pay rent, eat, plus heat and water and electrocute everything

we no longer seem capable of doing even that, as our customers are also slowly beginning to consider homelessness

i am first thinking along the lines of the janitorial arts

[no slaughterhouse in glendive, and me with no license or car]

 

20 bucks a day..
wow. i figured we need about 40 per day(everyday) to keep up the lifestyle we have.
that includes power,phone,internet,property taxes,insurance on house,trailer,2 vehicles and my mortgage payment.

i havent figured how low i can go cutting out the absolute unnecessary in all of that.. probably down to 20 a day i dunno though..

 

Mexico is headed for rough times their oil is on a downward spiral it is getting to deep and no one wants to invest. Their tourist industry is going down hill due to crime and neglect not to mention tourism is one of the first things people take off the to do list in tough economic times.

They had some profitable years for a while but I think that is ending this year..
The government is just a 3rd world deal the Paso goes up and down daily.

Smart people from 3rd world countries are used to that type life when the money is good invest so you can ride out hard times.

I know a couple of Mexicans that came up to the U.S. and have bought a home back in Mexico with the money they sent back and will go back and live of the money they saved.
I know a lot more that came up here and had anchor babies and got in the welfare system and live off tax money, church handouts and free medical, they are not scared to use any available resource. They make as many babies as they can and make a huge family here in America. Invest in babies it is the way of the 3rd world.

And they know how to have a lot of babies when the conditions are right..

 

no mortgage [$200/month rent], no vehicles, no insurance

if we ever get sick we are dead

40 a day is not excessive, it is not too far from the poverty line for more than one person

if i ever had the cash to buy a house out here [10k or so] i could do better

also if i could talk the wife out of spices and things

i scared her this morning with my announcement of the new flour and potatoes regime

have you noticed that i tend to get a tiny bit extreme?

[i will make a good janitor]

 

Heh.

I doubt this is the "largest immigration raid in US history", sensationalism at best, although it is a rather large number of people.

 

come on aristartle i know its your nature to be a nay sayer but use some common sense..

600 people is 15 crammed full bus loads. do you have any idea of the man power and and resources it took to pull this off?
besides that,how many places in america have 600 illegals in one spot at once?
hell how many plants in america have 600 workers per shift? not many..

no i dont see it as "sensationalism" at all.

all i see is you being lil miss nay sayer as usual with nothing to back up your doubts.

 

I thought it was 400?

Didn't the article say 400?

All I am saying is that yes, that is a large number, but not as many as the USA raids when the INS kicked people out in the late 1920s-1930s when they were raiding Mexican and South American people.

That was like, my snooty know-it-all response to the claim that 400 people in a INS raid was probably not the largest number. Largest number of people this year, sure.

I see that as historically inaccurate and misleading. It's sensationalism to claim that it was the biggest raid, when it isn't.

Like I said in my last post, it is a large number, a significant number, but it certainly isn't the "biggest number in history" like the article has people to believe. There are countless other people who have been arrested from INS raids in the past.

Umm, I'm a lil miss perfect. But thanks for trying.

 

Oh, and there are plenty of places that have 600 workers come in for their shifts in one day.

I happen to work for a company that employs 800 people on site every day. And I live in Canada. You know, that small little place to the north.

I have seen other INS raid stories and reports of hundreds of people being arrested in the number of 600. I fail to see why you are arguing this and accuse me of "nay saying".

 

This is an election year. This sort of thing gives weight to the republicans. Although they aren't that serious about illegal immigration, or they wouldn't be working so hard with their SPP to make it even easier. But looks good at election season.

 

First of all there are at least 20 MILLION illegal aliens in the US.Any one who says they cannot be deported is wrong.In the 1950s on a much smaller scale many illegals were kicked out.So Obama is full of shit,same as McCain.I agree this raid is nothing but a token gesture.Anthing short of deporting ALL illegals is unacceptable.Any one who hires them jail and huge fines should be mandatory.