486 children taken from their parents on sexual abuse allegations and turns out...

... that there are only 5 underage pregnant girls, that 15 of the girls taken are actually adults one is actually 27 years old, that the precentage of fractures (childhood injures) are below the national average for childhood broken bones, and that the person who called in to report abuse was a prank caller. 105 of the children are below the age of 5, so not in any way in danger of being "forced into marriage", and that CPS had no justification in taking the boys at all.

the court has ordered the children be removed from group shelters and foster homes (no danger of abuse there ) and placed back with their parents within 10 days.

glad someone is actually paying attention to the LAWS and not just bigoted prejudice.

If there are allegations of abuse for an individual child that is credible they can investigate just as they are required to do with the rest of the country's citizens. Not roll into the place with armored tanks like they did and grab everyone they saw who looked underage (again they took 15 of them into custody who were adults, one is 18 the rest are 20 and over, one is 27 years old) based on 1 prank call.

imagine having your children taken because someone anonymously suggested that your neighbor was a child molestor (with no evidence).

Also keep in mind that the legal age of consent in texas is 16, so some of the "child brides" are in fact legal.

at least the state didn't burn them to death or sic snipers on them this time around...

 

The age of consent is actually 17 in Texas. Anyways I read about this today and I was shocked, that they found they didn't have enough evidence to take any children. I mean isn't 1 underage pregnant girl 1 too many?! OH well I just hope the children are being taken care of and that the mothers get to see their children again.

 

With those type of beliefs and lifestyles, you would think that Texas would be tha last place they would want to live. I don't agree with their beliefs, but I support their right to believe and worship and live the way they choose. Our constitution guarantees their religious freedom.

 

But not when it breaks the law which was the bias for law enforcement breaking in.

 

Yeah, 1 underage pregnant girl is enough to investigate that 1 pregnancy. not enough cart off 485 other children, some of whom were not even children. Just like with everyone else in the country CPS needs evidence and allegations against your specific kid before they can take custody. Imagine you go to pick up your kid from daycare and are told that there was an anonymous allegation that 1 kid was being abused by a parent so all the kids were taken into custody for who knows how long including yours. CPS in this case violated the civil rights of the children and the parents.

 

Texas raised the min age of consent to marry with parental approval from 14 to 16 in 2005. I believe it's still 14 with a court's approval.

 

Well thats the thing man they aren't taking their kids to a daycare they are the daycare. If you took your child to a daycare and there was sign of him/her being abused wouldn't you want there to be an investgation of all the employees?! Hope that made since.

 

At 13 and 14 girls should be going on dates to the movies and having sleep over parties not getting fucked and made pregnant by their 50 year old uncles..

The kids were raised to be brainwashed slaves I’m glad they ended the cycle of abuse.

Yeah I’m sure the LE did illegal things and violated the constitution but that is how they work everyday, all day and all nightlong.

I would rather spend my LE rants for drug violators or protesters not a bunch on child raping, incest breeding cult fanatics.

 

Far as I can see these poor kids are caught between two nightmares, organized religion and the government. Both suck but I think the government at least tried to do the right thing. At least government has some modicum of accountability which is more than can be said for religion.

 

Well it seems this isn't over, the DAs have appealed the judges rules and it will probablt be taken all the way up to the supreme court.

 

Well the lucky old men in that cult will continue to prey on the children of the cult. I don't feel sorry for any of them. I feel sorry for girls that have to submit to the lecherous beliefs of males that are only after one thing. Their mothers must feel very proud. They are nothing more than chattel and wish that on their daughters, while watching their sons be sent off to fend for themselves because there aren't enough young pussys to go a round. If this happened to anyone outside of the SDL it would be citable if not legally criminal.

Those women/mothers are a joke...they allow their underage daughters to be taken, they obey the orders of a few stupid men that benefit from taking advantage of underage femailes...who benefits? What happens to their sons that are thrown out because there aren't enough women to satisfy the lust of the old guard. They can't seem to think for themselves. Here in the civilized world it's not allowed to happen, and polygamy in the US is illegal in the US, or did Bush make it legal in Texas?

 

It's not a matter of religion or politics, it's the matter of a few horny old men seeking to monopolize a cornered market.

 

i don't feel bad for this church... oooh, society is scary, lets hide away and rape our daughters. Oh well. it'll do them good to see a little of the outside world for once.

 

Yeah maybe a few of those girls won't go back, maybe they will experience what it is not to be turned over by their mothers to their uncles. Maybe just maybe they'll have a chance.

 

Polygamy is illegal!

http://www.absalom.com/mormon/polygamy/faq.htm

 

QFT

 

So charge them with that crime. Not rocket science.

 

investigation being the key word that you've used. They wouldn't arrest all of the employees based on 1 allegation would they? Whent they took those kids thats essentially what the state did. Where was the investigation? there was none, and now the prosecution/police/CPS are getting called out for fucking up, and the children who are possibly being abused are going back to the abusers because CPS didn't think it important to differentiate the abusers/abused from the non-abusers/non-abusees. Instead they figured "hey you're part of this religion? give me the kids, or at least everyone who looks like they might be a kid". Doesn't matter if they are in a cult, they are still individuals and as such they have constitutional rights. Maybe next time the Authorities will think this shit through.

being a member of a certain religion, even one as messed up as FLDS, isn't enough reason for the State to take your kids in this country, you have to show reasonable suspicion of abuse and CPS couldn't provide that, which is why the court ruled against them.

No one wants those kids going back to that ranch, but CPS can't violate the law, and they can't violate the rights of individuals who have not been accused of anything by anybody because other members of their religion were accused of being abusive. We have that set up that way for a number of good reasons that go beyond the FLDS.

 

While I don't agree with this psycho church and I'm glad they got busted, I don't think polygamy should be illegal. Its like the law imposing its morals on others... republican fundie morals. People should be free to love whoever they want. And polygamy can work...

 

Judge orders sect children returned to parents

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/02/texas.polygamists/index.html