Dont spay and neuter!

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by newcarscent7, Apr 18, 2008.

  1. newcarscent7

    newcarscent7 Member

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    I dont see why people spay and nueter their pets. Animals should be able to run free and hump as they like!


    Peace
     
  2. PeaceItOut

    PeaceItOut Member

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    well since we decided to domesticate then to the point of no survival in the wild, we have to take care of them. and since people are so irresponcible and fucked up, we cant have that many pets. so please, spay and nueter.
     
  3. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    yea like she said

    ideally if wed never interfered in theyre natureal selection id agree with ya but when we domesticated animals we took responcibility for theyre care which includes making sure theres not thousands runnin around starvin not bein cared for
     
  4. Sammichesftw

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    *facepalm*

    In your 14 years of life, have you ever been to an animal shelter? Guess not. There are so many animals without homes because of people that didn't care to get their pets fixed. Cats and dogs come in litters, and not all people can have pets. When animals are domesticated and left to fend for themselves, they breed like crazy, fight, and it spreads diseases. Please think a little deeper. I have a lot of cats, would take in dogs if I could as well. I have seen a lot of painful things happen due to people being irresponsible. I have had cats with FIV, leukemia, etc. and they just keep breeding out there until you take them in, get them their shots and fixed so it doesn't spread to another generation. If cats and dogs were endangered species, it would be a different story.
     
  5. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    outside my window theres at least 20 cats all strays all breeding all running wild many if theyre taken in get pout to sleep neutering would prevent thousands of strays from being killed each year


    also u say they should run free and hump as they please
    great solution
    and when we have packs of wild dogs running wild hundreds to a pack all hungry looking for food and u start to look like a nice lil snack to them how happy will u be then...
     
  6. His Eden

    His Eden Queen of Mean

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    This is why people need to spay/neuter cats......

    Damage

    House cat, Felis domesticusFeral cats feed extensively on song-birds, game birds, mice and other rodents, rabbits, and other wildlife. In doing so, they lower the carrying capacity of an area for native predators such as foxes, raccoons, coyotes, bob-cats, weasels, and other animals that compete for the same food base.

    Where documented, their impact on wildlife populations in suburban and rural areas—directly by predation and indirectly by competition for food— appears enormous. A study under way at the University of Wisconsin (Coleman and Temple 1989) may provide some indication of the extent of their impact in the United States as compared to that in the United Kingdom, where Britain’s five million house cats may take an annual toll of some 70 million animals and birds (Churcher and Lawton 1987). Feral cats occasionally kill poultry and injure house cats.

    Feral cats serve as a reservoir for human and wildlife diseases, including cat scratch fever, distemper, histoplasmosis, leptospirosis, mumps, plague, rabies, ringworm, salmonellosis, toxoplasmosis, tularemia, and various endo and ectoparasites.

    Legal Status
    Cats are considered personal property if ownership can be established through collars, registration tags, tattoos, brands, or legal description and proof of ownership. Cats without identification are considered feral and are rarely protected under state law. They become the property of the landowner upon whose land they exist. Municipal and county animal control agencies, humane animal shelters, and various other public and private “pet” management agencies exist because of feral or unwanted house cats and dogs. These agencies destroy millions of stray cats annually.

    State, county, and municipal laws related to cats vary. Before lethal control is undertaken, consult local laws. If live capture is desired, consult the local animal control agency for instructions on disposal of cats.

    Economics of Damage and Control
    The place of cats in the modern urban world is certainly secure even though their reputation as rodent controllers has not been supported by objective research. Cats have replaced dogs as the most common family pet in the United States. Their owners support a growing segment of the economy in the pet food and pet supplies industries. On the other hand, feral cats are responsible for the transmission of many human and wildlife diseases and kill substantial amounts of wildlife.

    http://www.extension.org/pages/Feral_Cat_Damage_Assessment


    And this is why people need to spay/neuter their dogs.

    Damage and Damage Identification

    Feral dog, Canis familiarisLivestock and poultry can be victims of harassment, injury, and death from both domestic and feral dogs. Distinguishing between livestock killed by domestic or feral dogs and that killed by coyotes may be difficult since the mode of attack can be similar. Coyotes usually attack an animal at the throat; domestic dogs are relatively indiscriminate in how and where they attack. Sometimes, however, dogs kill the way coyotes do, and young and inexperienced coyotes may attack any part of the body of their prey as dogs would. The survival of feral dogs, much like that of other wild canids, depends on their ability to secure food. Therefore feral dogs are usually adept predators. Unlike most domestic dogs, feral dogs rely on their prey for food, and thus consume much of what they kill. Feral dogs favor the hindquarters and viscera (liver, spleen, heart, lungs).

    When domestic dogs attack domestic animals, they may injure or kill several, but they seldom consume their victims. Rather, they leave the impression that they were involved in vicious play rather than an attempt to obtain food. The most diagnostic characteristic of injuries caused by dogs is usually the slashing and biting of prey animals over much of their bodies. Wade and Bowns (1983) and Acorn and Dorrance (1990) present a detailed pictorial and descriptive aid to identifying predators that damage livestock.

    Feral dogs may become skilled at hunting in groups for small game such as rabbits and hares and large game including deer and even moose. Some wildlife managers feel that feral dogs are a serious threat to deer, especially in areas with heavy snows (Lowry 1978). Others have found no evidence that feral dogs pose a significant threat to deer (Causey and Cude 1980). Clearly, the impact of feral dogs, both on livestock and wildlife, varies by location and is influenced by factors such as availability of other food, the number of dogs, and competition by other predators. Feral dogs may feed on fruit crops including melons, berries, and grapes, and native fruits such as persimmons and blackberries. Damage to melons is similar to that caused by coyotes. The side of a ripe melon is usually bitten open and the insides eaten.

    Feral dogs commonly kill house cats, and they may injure or kill domestic dogs. In areas where people have not hunted and trapped feral dogs, the dogs may not have developed fear of humans, and in those instances such dogs may attack people, especially children. This can be a serious problem in areas where feral dogs feed at and live around garbage dumps near human dwellings. Such situations occur most frequently around small remote towns. On the Galapagos Islands, feral dogs have significantly impacted native populations of tortoises, iguanas, and birds.




    Legal Status
    State and local laws concerning feral and free-ranging dogs vary considerably, but most states have some regulations. Many states, particularly those in the west, permit individuals to shoot dogs that are chasing or killing game animals or livestock. State agencies or agriculture departments usually are responsible for controlling feral dogs in rural areas. No states consider feral dogs to be game animals. Most cities have animal control agents to pick up abandoned and free-ranging domestic dogs.

    Economics of Damage and Control
    Feral dogs may destroy livestock and poultry valued at thousands of dollars. In such instances, the costs of controlling dogs may be warranted. Boggess and his co-workers (1978) examined 5,800 claims of domestic livestock lost to dogs and coyotes in Iowa between 1960 and 1974. Dogs were considered responsible for 49% of the reported sheep losses, 45% of the cattle losses, 66% of the swine losses, and 82% of the poultry losses. Denny (1974) conducted a nationwide survey of state departments of agriculture, wildlife conservation agencies, and related agencies to determine problems caused by unconfined dogs. Damage to wildlife, especially deer, small game, and birds, was considered the primary problem caused by dogs. Damage to game animals may be a serious local problem. In view of the value placed on game animals by hunters and other wildlife enthusiasts, local control to benefit wild game may be economically justified. The second most serious problem reported was damage to livestock.
     
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    Bob Barker is retired, But Drew Carry says please Spay and Neuter your pet, Unless you are a responsable breeder. Im all for Spay and Neuter. Owed many dog in my life and the surgery helps domesticate the animals, And some bad behaviors are only because they want SEX> Btw Animals Im sure can hump even after being spayed and neutered but Im sure they just rather watch TV. after getting fixed.
     
  8. flmkpr

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    my dog nicki is nueterd and his lattest squeaze is spayed they hump on a regular basis!! lucky dogs! lol
     
  9. Frieden

    Frieden Senior Member

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    The OP needs to be neutered.
     
  10. Advaya

    Advaya Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    My dogs and cats are all fixed. While I have not noticed much for personality changes mostly because the surgeries were all within a very short of time of getting them (adopted), they certainly hump things. Infact, my dog Thumper will hump anything...my other dog, the cat, blankets, my mom, you get the picture.
     
  11. Toby Stanley

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    I fully agree with Frieden on this one, since it is truly a tragedy when ignorance is perpetuated in the world...
     
  12. AuburnStallion

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    Sometimes I think humans should be spayed or neutered. What's our population now? Six billion... seven... eight? And it's not going to decrease any time soon.
     
  13. verseau_miracle

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  14. zihger

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    They don’t spay or neuter pets in 3rd world countries they just run around and over populate and die of parvo, distemper, rabies or poison.

    Yeah, stray animals are great.
     
  15. big dog1

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    dont fix your animals. how would you feel if you were neutered or sparyed?
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  16. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    I had a vasectomy and it feels GREAT now.

    AUBURN STALLION is right there are too many people.
     
  17. RainbowUnicorn

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    Yeah, AuburnStallion--I agree with ya--I think humans should be spayed and neutered--as many as there are of us, you'd think we'd be running out of room on this planet! LOL But seriously--I'm all for spaying and neutering animals--I mean, it was us humans who domesticated cats and dogs in the first place--so part of the responsible ownership of the aforementioned cats and dogs is to have them spayed and/or neutered so they can live long, healthy lives! My cat Shadow is spayed and my dog Merlin is neutered--and I recently took in a stray cat because somebody dumped him in my neighborhood, and I'm going to have him neutered in early June--so after that's done, I can safely say that all my pets are fixed! :) Peace!
     
  18. Frieden

    Frieden Senior Member

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    did you get it before or after repopulating the earth? yyyeeeaaahhh
     
  19. floydianslip6

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    I don't see why we have to spay and neuter, why couldn't we just spay? I don't think the female knows she can't be having babies, then the dudes don't have to lose balls and feel all bummed out.

    Then everyone can hump and have a good time, but the population is under control... I'm an idealist... I know.
     
  20. Miss_Beatle

    Miss_Beatle Beatlemaniac

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    yeah well, i was going to come in here and give some perfectly good reasons why we should spay and neuter, but i see everyone else has already done that.

    :) glad other's see the importance.
     
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