I'd get out of there if I were you. I had ten years of jobs from hell and then I went back to being self-employed. At least I only have myself to complain about these days. It's not those people's faults that they're the way they are, it's the system that makes them that way. You might end up down there with them though if you stay. Love, peace and good luck
this is a hard one for me and very current. sure you could and obviously she's claiming some of your energy as her own/you're giving it to her. I've been realizing lately that for me it's a form of arrogance. I carry big energy and I want to save the world. I know I have a very profound mission that will help do something like this... hell we all do, but just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. if you've presented her the energy of change or self healing or love... whatever you want to call it then she's recieved it. it's now her choice as to the time in which she wants to utilize it. just being around her you've harmonized with her field and she has the information necessary to move if, when and where she wants. but if you stick around and hand her energy why would she? my personal arrogance comes in that I seem to have this need to be needed. it makes me feel important. yay, I fixed your life. I like being a savior sometimes. but isn't that just my own insecurities as a teacher and a healer? someone only heals if they want it. somebody only learns if they want to. sometimes you have to leave and give space in order for growth to happen. that way you find your strength and everybody else finds theirs. and individually we find it together... if that makes any sense. this is one of those situations where I'm right with you. it's a constant reminder for me.
OK jrnyman. I get what you mean. I think. If I hand her the energy on a silver platter I am cheating her out of learning and growing on her own. Right? Maybe I should get out of "martyr mode"...LOL...
Yes, you are right Madame Pastrami....I've been there 8 yrs and handled it well for a long time. It's just lately it has been dragging me down. At least until I posted on this forum. Feel alot more optimistic now. The money is good at this job. I live in a village so there are not alot of other job opportunities.
the other thing is... as much as it sucks to deal with this woman, you seem to like the job you're in, and if you want to stay in it... you can work on giving her back the energy that she tries to place on you. instead of being focused on protecting yourself from her energy, you can create like... a bounceback shield of energy by saying "this is who i am, this is how i react, anything else is not me." it's a lot easier to say or type than to do, but it can be helpful. but if the energy she is projecting onto you bounces right back at her so she has to deal with her own shit... well, she could end up breaking apart, and that might be what she needs in order to grow. because while you can give her energy, since you have an unlimited supply from source, that would be allowing her to lazily cheat herself out of a connection directly to source. it's like she will settle for a two bar wireless signal from the neighbor's house rather than going down to hook up her own so she can get a stronger signal. horrible analogy, but you know what i'm saying? i say this from my own experiences... i have a tendency to draw my energy off others and it's not healthy. i've always lived in cities, so i've been the kind of vampire who sucks a bit here and there, and it's usually not even people i know, so i don't USUALLY affect anyone to the point where they notice it. not that it excuses the behavior, but at that point, i didn't realize i was doing it. now i've moved to the country and have only a few people to "suck" off of... and they feel it much more... so i've been confronted with the fact that i do this, and i've been growing in my ability to make my own connections to source for my energy. but if i wasn't around a very special person who said "no" to me when i wanted to take their energy, i wouldn't be doing this right now. at least not in the same way. sorry... this got to be a really long post... but anyways, hope some of that helps your situation!
i'm the opposite, i have too much energy at times, people feed offa me and i don't mind, i'd be a chinese firework if they didn't, being an extrovert does that, but when i find that my energy fills their egos and not their spirit its sad to me...then i tend to hold back my energy, until i burst onto some unsuspecting poor soul who then dont know what to do with it...oh
yeh,,, you seen that movie, cocktail, with tom cruise?? get out those pill bottles ,,,put some energy into them,,, hey, who knows, you may make just make your clients better too/ i'm just waiting for my disiplinary, i've already decided to sign my name as sheet slasher the first..
Damn, Eden - now this REALLY sounds like what they were doing to me in my job a few years ago. I couldn't do anything right for certain people. They would go out of their way and even make stuff up to get me in trouble. And I know they were doing it on purpose because of remarks they made in my presence when nobody else was listening. Not very lovey of me, I admit, but I confess to thinking there should be a special kind of hell for people like that...hmmm, guess I haven't gotten over it yet. Oh well, at least they aren't sending us suicide bombers - not yet, anyway. Anyway I must agree that an incorrectly made bed is one of the greatest sins imaginable, and you should be dragged by the hair, preferably screaming in horror and agony, to the lowest dungeons and there tortured until you confess your evil motivations for mis-making those beds. About the only act of greater evil is allowing dandelions to grow in your lawn, which happens to be a sin I have reveled in for years. It used to make the neighbors gnash their teeth and circulate petitions, but now I live in the woods where nobody knows or cares. I should send a photo of my unmowed lawn to my ex-neighbors along with a video clip of my face close-up doing a juicy raspberry. Oops Windy, am I off-topic? I say try to avoid supporting your vampire's habit. But don't get even - get odd.
First, I think that many people act as psychic vampyres at some point in their life. Some don't know it at the time and never do or will because they don't believe in that kind of stuff. Most people who are drawn to energy work at some point have this happen because, to be crude, most everyone is a walking energetic buffet and don't even have the concept of shielding in any sense. To me appears to be as natural as picking an apple from a tree - your energetic body welcomes the influx and one grabs it without thought. However when you realize what you're doing then the moral and ethical considerations come into play. At some point you either realize it's more like taking a bottle from a baby than plucking an apple from a tree and stop -- or you don't (with all kinds of rationalizations for that - we are really good at rationalizing, at least!). As far as how to deal with someone who you must come into contact with that won't stop here is a suggestion. This is a bit on the aggressive side but I tend to think of it as helping the wheel of karma turn. When she comes to you to connect envision a tube of sorts being projected from her energetic field - this is the siphon point where she siphons off your energy. Instead of letting the tube attach to your field envision it bending back and connecting to her own field from the outside (for those of you who are interested this is a klein bottle of sorts, sacred geometry at work, IMO (the klein bottle is a transformation of the square) ). Since the energy she is really looking for is within you are kindly directing her seeking to the proper source. A really good conceptual model is a vacuum cleaner hose being stuck to a smooth surface while the vacuum is on. Let it stick then let go. This will do a few things. The energetic toxins she is producing in order to break down your field so she can feed off of your energy she ingests herself. This will teach her what types of energies she is putting out. This will also cause her to become nauseous on a psychic level. You know how humans are hardwired to shun things which make them physically ill? Well it works psychically too. This will wean her off of even trying to feed on you energetically if you establish the pattern. It should also cause her to stop trying to create so many toxins as they are now being recycled within her system. It also coincidentally leaves you free. The only "catch" (though to me it seems like a bonus!) seems to be that it can't be done through malice, anger, or fear. Of course most of you will realize that these and the like will attach you more closely rather than freeing you from the cycle. You must realize that what she's doing is not only bad for you ultimately it's worse for her. Also, to me it is important that her Higher Self be on your side and approaching with clear conscience and clear intent is likely to help. Certainly deep down she knows that this type of behaviour is in error. People create their own realities and their own rules. Currently for most people actions and consequences are so far apart that they don't live under the rules they create. In this case you are helping someone to do so by compressing the cycle of action and consequence. I am a big advocate of not letting people create negative externalities especially on planes that seem to have rather different rulesets for such things. In this case you are only helping her realize what she's doing to herself - directly (though subtly). I have no idea if this will help on a purely interpersonal level. It's likely that she may still follow you around and still be helpless asking for help with her work, etc. I don't feel that this will help with her insecurities either. All you can do on a work level is be satisfied that that's the only "help" she can obtain from you. However, a sure sign that something is happening are external behavioral changes. I'd love to hear any comments about this type of technique. Do you feel it would work for you? Would you never do something like it? (why not?) I find myself ambivalent, really. But much in the same way I am ambivalent about other forms of self defense such as Akido or Tai Chi which turns the attackers energy against its purpose. Certainly one might think - Where did I stray from the path that I am in a situation where I have to defend myself? But sometimes, that is the path.
i've been using that visualization, moonchilde, over the past couple of days. it works but it's intense. when I was doing it I noticed that the person was cycling really hard off of the energy. it was sent to me saying "you need to do it this way... and NOW!" and those attachment hoses I just kept seeing come at me and I turned them around and plugged them back into this person's field. There were sometimes dozens of these little buggers at a time and actually aikido helped as I used to study it so that moving with yet not accepting kind of thing worked really well. The way the energy felt was a very heightened freneticism getting more and more intense like a freak out about the way things are done, this isn't being done right... it's not happening fast enough... I don't want to be doing this.... Anyway I sent it back... all of it, and watched this person move faster and faster and faster it was kind of weird actually. I felt like I was sinking into the ground because I was moving so much more slowly and they were spinning like a top. I done stuff like this before but never really had the opportunity to watch it in real time to that extent before. It's intense to watch the energies we throw at each other sometimes. It also helps me be aware of what my presence might be doing to that person. Perhaps just my being there is increasing this reaction in their field. I know that sometimes when different fields interact it can be really hard on some people. I've noticed in general it's really uncommon for people in this region of CA to be solid and grounded. Everywhere I go I feel like I'm moving at half the speed of everything else. Anyway since then I've been experimenting with becoming radiant. Creating a light push if that makes any sense. Instead of plugging the energy back into their field I've been strengthening mine and using a mirror effect, where instead of physically taking each attempt and heightening their field I'm simply disallowing it's purchase on me. It's much harder to do as each time the desired result isn't achieved the push from this person gets harder and it's got a bit of weight behind it but all in all it's working out fairly well. I'm also still trying to perfect this immaculate innocence thing where I adjust my frequency to the point of having this completely miss me. Like I don't even know it exists, therefore it can't touch me. It works really well with other fields I've encountered. It's a bit tougher with this situation though. Anybody else experiment with this?
I'm a little nevous to try the tube thing. About 7 or 8 years back, I tried to get rid of a boyfriend by sending him negative feelings thinking he would just get this vague sense of not wanting to be around me anymore. Ya I know, opening my mouth would have been alot easier, but at the time I had difficulty voicing my feelings and was just curious to see if this worked. Well!!! It worked alright. On me. It was immediate. Within a few minutes I started shaking and felt extremely ill. All I could do was rock back and forth while HE comforted me LOL I felt like I had been poisoned. At the time I had no idea of the seriousness of this. Years later a friend of mine told me I was really lucky. I just got off with a slap on the hand. As for the "vampire" at work, the way I've been dealing with her is to shine a light so bright that anything coming from her is deflected off, and hopefully that energy goes back to the void to be recycled into some positive energy. This seems to work. She doesn't seem to want to hang out with me for very long when I do this.
i understand that kind of "uh-oh" windy... it sucks, i know. but i think in that instance, you felt it because you were consciously sending negative energy out to someone... in using the tube thing (i modified it to work better for me, because certain visualizations work better for me than others), i've been feeling the negative (or frenetic, or whatever it is that's coming at me) energy come into me, and then feel it flow right back out of my hands... like they're gushing like a fire hose, pouring all that energy right back at the person who sent it, so they HAVE to feel what they're sending out, and HAVE to deal with their own emotions, rather than having me process it for them. i've been a "vampire" and i've been a "shit thrower" and part of the way i realized i was doing it was that i had a wonderful person (jrnyman... you rock) be a "mirror" to me, by taking the energy i was throwing and deflecting it back at me. when i felt that energy, and realized what it was, it made me want to stop throwing my energy around the way i had been. it wasn't an instantaneous process, but it really helped me out in my own growth. not necessarily saying this is what will work for you, but adding my own experiences to the discussion!
Sounds similar to one of the techniques I use... Though, I let their negative energy store up a bit then compress it and blast it back at 'em through the same 'tendril' (as I call it) of energy that they sent it in. Sometimes I will transform the energy into a more positive spectrum... in both cases they usually stop instantly. Occasionally I do the exact opposite and drain them of their negative energy... well they wanted to give it to me right? Why not take more than they can handle? Any psychic vampire can become a great healer, all they need to do is change their tastes in energy. Or learn how to convert energies.
agreed. only i dislike the "blast" of energy send back... isn't that like an unecessary slap in the face? it just seems excessive and spiteful to me... but maybe i'm misunderstanding your intent? i would be interested in seeing your reasoning for utilizing this method, as it could end up being rather harmful to the person, especially if they are not used to working with energy, and/or had no idea they were doing it. it could serve to alienate them from energy work, and make it harder for them to become a great healer because they then see energy as bad or negative, and want nothing to do with it. for myself, i was treated very gently while i was in my "vampire" energy "shitter" phase, and it made me want to learn more about doing GOOD things with energy. and as i learned about the healthy, beautiful ways of using energy, i started seeing and feeling the effects of the energy i was throwing, and i then wanted to change it. to me that seems a much more effective way of helping a psychic vampire to make (and WANT to make) the transition to utilizing energy for healing rather than harm.
Hi naked ....we have probably all been vampires and shit throwers at some point in our life. I certainly have. LOL, I think I mentioned in an earlier post that maybe "psychic vampire" is a little karma comin' back my way. All it takes sometimes is for some one to point these things out to you and you become more aware of what you are putting out there.
^isn't that the truth! psychic "mirrors" are amazing that way... no better way to stimulate growth than to look into what it is you're sending out!
Good point to be wary of. Rest assured, I only use the 'blast' technique on particularly strong obtrusive attacks, sometimes a good slap to the face is exactly what's needed. An interesting thing with these 'subtle' energies in question is that as soon as a connection is made between two people/entities a plethora of information can be exchanged, such as intent. Thus said, I always find out why I'm being attacked/probed before I take any action. My first course of action is to simply sever the energy tendrils if the connection is not wanted/warranted or I'm being overwhelmed by multiple connections. ---------------- Now playing: Fat Jon - Genome
windy: I agree with nakedtreehugger. There is a real difference between sending someone negative energy and redirecting their own energy back at them in various forms. The sickness you felt then is similar to what i was alluding to. I do think the radiant light visualization is excellent and can work in a variety of situations. With that technique I would be careful to not invest a lot of personal energy (chi or what have you) into the shield as it takes a lot (in my experience at least). Some of you were talking of Reiki and I would think of using a similar source (if my understanding of Reiki is correct). We may be infinite but generally we only have a finite internal amount at any one time to draw on (probably due to our own imperfect perceptions of our Selves, but that's another topic!). I'm glad that you've found something that works for you. jrnyman: part of the point of this particular technique is the cycle you were seeing and indeed from their perspective it certainly isn't what is "supposed" to happen. If you look up klein bottle on wikipedia and look at the picture you may get the idea more directly. the feedback loop that is created can get very intense. that's partly why i called it a bit aggressive. It is designed to accelerate their own internal realization at a much faster rate than grounding their energy or the mirror - although I have used mirror surfaces in the past in "push" situations (where they are projecting) I find that in "pull" situations like vampyrism this works better for me. There is a certain merit it staying in perfect centered innocence - it requires the least energy. In fact energizes your being and there is literally no way for negative energies to affect or bind you. However I think that trying to find this center and then acting from it not only protects yourself it causes a more direct change to others than simply staying within the circle (although it does allow more possibility of making a mistake). nakedtreehugger: I like your modification of the visualization - it is certainly more "hands on" (no pun intended) and lets you monitor and moderate their progress. Much less harsh than my original. I believe that Nivekian probably has a different (set of) life purpose(s) than you do. Think of it this way - some children can be told not to touch a hot stove, will understand that it can hurt them and won't do it. Some children have to learn that lesson in a more direct manner. Nivekian seems to be a defender in one aspect and his actions and reactions appear to be by nature more forceful than yours. I would suppose that the people he comes across may need a more forceful lesson, in general, than those you may encounter. Probably why you came across someone like jrnyman rather than Nivekian, as you don't need that flavour of lesson... While you are right to worry, as with all of us the more Nivekian becomes centered in his own being the more any action he chooses will do more good than harm. Nivekian: You obliquely bring up a good point to remember - any connection is a two way street. The tendril they send out is a ready channel back to them. Of course, the same goes for any of us too - any connection we make is a ready channel back to us. How do you handle storage and/or transformation of these negative energies? Some (though not human) I have dealt with before have seemed insidious and corrosive to the point I'd rather not handle them at all. It's like ink. Ever had an ink pen explode? Trying to clean it up can be a pain - even with a handy supply of paper towels it spreads everywhere. Now imagine how to do it without ... I appreciate your feedback on my post and first hand accounts of your experiences, everyone. Namaste.
thanks moonchilde I do practice Reiki and try to use the same idea in shining that radiant light. To know that light comes from a limitless Source. Also it crossed my mind that when using or "seeing" that tube you could always visualize sticking a cork in it LOL.....
