Prediction. Mccain will win.

Haven't any of you blokes considered that the reason McCain might win is because all the Dems have fucked around for the past year. The fight between Obama and CLinton is ridiculous - wearisome to hear about - and people are sick of the cat fight. They've shot themselves in the foot with the bullshit - therefore, yeah, us DUMB Americans might vote for a name we aren't sick of hearing about.

And, for the gent or lady who said Americans are dumb for voting for McCain, wake up and realize empty insults like that is what divides us further. Maybe if you took a moment to see we all live under this banner of stars and stripes (hippy nor not), you'd realize how insulting such an ignorant comment is.

Peace out folks and keep lovin' - accept for that pillock who makes blanket insults.

 

Not many even remember Vince Foster or the fact that park police handled the investigation.

 

I often wonder why I don't view the politics forum, and then when I do come here it becomes obvious.

At this point, after a rough heated battle between Clinton and Obama, and Obama emerging as the canidate... Obama is ahead in most polls.

I am fairly certain Obama will win the popular vote. I'm a little concerned about a repeat of 2000 though. Obama winning popular vote and McCain winning the college and becoming president.

John McCain is not popular. His policies aren't popular, and the democrats will be able to tie him to George Bush effectively.

The further this election progresses the more chances people will get to know the candidates, and that will only help Obama. I'm fairly certain that reckless ignorance will be the only thing that will keep people voting Republican this time.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/26/mccain/index.html

Really McCain? Really?

 

Then you'll be voting for policies that most Americans are tired of. The Bush policies.

 

Ummm, McCain will win no question, that isn't a prediction it's a cold hard fact.

And Obama will not win more than 4 states, the U.S. is nowhere near ready for a black president, not even close, lotta racists still.

 

Your abecedarian analysis doesn't line up with poll results at all.

 

Obama and Hilary have been having their little bitch fight... but surprisingly Obama seems to be coming out on top. Maximus is making claims based on his own cynical viewpoints... not on fact. Yes, McCain is very likely to win, but Obama is still putting up quite a fight. I hope he wins... and I hope he doesn't screw us over.

 

I love every U.S. election year, so many idiots, so very many idiots.

It's the U.S., the voting system is not the same as in MOST democratic countries.

Because of the " winner take all " scenario, Obama could get 42% of the populair vote and still only win 4 states!

I love this, every election year you have people talking how it's a toss up, lol, right.

This is going to be JUST like 88, after two Reagan terms, Bush beat out Dukakis, and lot of liberals thought Dukakis would win, and Dukakis was a white guy!

In that election, Dukakis won 45.6% of the vote, yet only 10 states+DC.

Now, my personal favorite example of Obama, is MONDALE! The new Mondale perhaps? Maybe.

Mondale won 40.6% of the vote, but only 1 fucking state....+DC.

So there you have it.

The U.S. election system is better designed for Republicans OR Democrats that have strong support centers in enough big states to win.

Obama's only surprise might be California, he MIGHT get California, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Come back to me in November down on your knees when you'll know I was dead right.

 

"MaximusXXX" for the most part is right.The US Presidential electoral process is now a pathetic one.I would never vote for McCain,but he is not the 'monster' Cheney and Bush are.I just think another republican as President will destroy America.On the other hand Obama and his love for illegal aliens is no good.

 

And I concur America will not easily elect a black for President.The democratic party goofed again by probably nominating him.And I never put black people on a pedestal,like some people do.If your black and cool fine,if your black and an idiot ,well call someone who cares.

 

I understand why McCain will be on the ballot. When he switched his stand on so many issues right before the last election, he did that to be crowned by Bush as the republican prince preemptive in the next election.

What I don't understand is why the democrat choice came down to these two. It's like the Dems didn't want to win. You can't tell me all these smart/savy political minds don't understand US demographics. They threw the race. The big question is why?

 

What it will come down to is a petty, non-issue related character battle created and presided over by the national media. Just like in the primaries.

 

People keep using the elections of the 80's, 90's, and 00's as a frame of reference for prediction this fall's elections. Yes, the electoral college is a real consideration and could fuck the dems again, but there are other items to be considered that are more unique to this election cycle.

Can we agree that the 70's through the 90's were relatively stable times, that common america wasn't confronted with multiple threats (except the vague matters of the cold war)? History does repeat itself, and a lot of what we are facing now is not new, but it is so many different sources of threats we're dealing with. It's like all the matters of the past that people swept under the rug are now all coming back to bite us in the ass all at once, like a great karmic commupeance.

That said, during turbulent times doesn't there tend to be a shift of the ruling party after elections? We can't generally blame everything on the ruling party, but when times are rough, we tend to vote for the other party when we have the chance. Based on that, can't we throw out any possible influence that dumbass voters usually fall for, since they fall for it during times of peace and prosperity (as a whole)?

Everything cited to support the claim that McCain will win are well-founded, under normal circumstances. This time around, the voices people respond to won't come from pundits, it's the voices from their gas tanks and refrigerators.

 

How the hell were the 1980s stable?

 

I said "relatively stable." compared to the 30's, 40's, 60's, and right now, the 80's was stable. I wouldn't call any period of time absolutely stable, but I refer to it as stable in the sense that people didn't feel apocolyptic pressure on a daily basis. there was a lot that went on in the 80's, but common america didn't realize it, calling it "morning in america", and we had 3 straight GOP terms.

 

I agree with what you have to say about the last couple decades being stable while this one is not. I think that Americans are getting one huge reality check about the practicality of raw consumerism in this world. Food and gas prices, shitty economy, along with the ever growing amount of environmental-issue exposure are assaulting the idea that a material driven America can go on forever. They're beginning to begin to see the cracks, whether they've realized it or not.

 

I think its impossible NOT to see the cracks... Things are getting worse... our rights are being taken away... we're being watched and monitored... we're being controlled and lied to.