Absorbed by the Trees

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  1. Squilla

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    So, I tripped mushrooms last saturday and I was outside in my backyard with my bose headphones ninja strapped to my head jamming the fuck out. A little background knowledge, I have these neighbors across the street from me that listen and make really shitty techno music all the time. They some time ago shot at my dad's car with a bb gun because I think one of them tried to cross our fence and we smeared it with dog shit. But these guys, complete trash, all they do is drink and make crappy techno music.

    Anyway, I'm out in my backyard (which everyone can see me if they wanted to, but it was 3 in the morning so I didn't really care) and I see a car with no lights on pushing 60-70 on the street. The guy almost crashed into our fence in the front, thats when I think they saw me. At this point I was listening to stinkfist by tool getting really dark vibes going on. A little later I decided to listen to Lateralus to Triad on Lateralus. WHen lateralus just began I touched my tree in my backyard so I could somehow transfer my spirit with it. But after about 10 seconds of my hand on the tree something bit me. It was a huge shock and I recoiled and proceeded to circle the tree "Black then white are..."

    Then, during reflection Was when the real shit happened. The guys from the techno house came over in front my house and started drinking, smoking, coughing and littering, right in front of my house!! The first thing that came to mind was how often does this shit happen. But it also got me thinking about the chaos in this universe. I proceeded to climb on another tree to get a good look of my neighborhood. WHile I was up on my hand was on the tree, another shock. It felt like the tree was trying to absorb my life energy. I quickly got off and looked at it. This was my epifamy:

    Evil exsisted before good. That the universe is chaos. Hate creates a sence of good in people to eliminate that hate. I also found my true goal in life:

    TO eliminate evil.

    Its not neccesarily evil, just the way the universe works. I wasn't even thinking about Vicarious when I was thinking about this. All life forms, (except certain humans) have a instinct to kill. Thats why there are these loosely created government, to somehow control this chaotic quality in people.

    It should be the goal of every right thinking idividual to destroy these people with these bad genes...or they will keep coming and keep fucking our shit up. I'm tired of being pushed around
     
  2. Geneity

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    That actually makes sense. Maybe it's just because I've tripped. But it's true, and I agree.
     
  3. Squilla

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    it did make me feel really shitty, the thought of there is no real reason to our exsistence? That the universe solely exsists for no reason at all, simply because it does. To some, there really isn't, thats why they go out and do shit like this because they really, deep down inside, don't care about their life. I started to get really depressed but the thought that saved me was

    "I am here to experience this reality, to enjoy the beauty of this world and not to be consumed by the darkness of others but to remove the darkness from people so we can all live in harmony."

    ANother thing, about the trees, if trees had a mind of their own, if they knew about their exsistence giving them intelligence, I think trees would try to kill humans. We are putting their environment in peril. They don't need humans for survival, or anything really. Seriously, put your hand on a tree( a living tree) and wait like 5mins. My hand hurt like a biutch, it was like my hand got bit by a bunch of bees. From the big bang and all the chaos that happens to create this world, it is up the the individual human to choose what he will represent. Whether it be chaos or order. The universe is hostile...unfortunatly....its the only way to survive.
     
  4. st. stephen

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    so u talk about these evil people with an instinct to kill? than u suggest killing all these people? seems a bit hipocritical to me. but i disagree with u in a major way, i think most people are naturally good. while yes i think there certainly are naturally bad people i think there is a lot of good to. when sombody takes in ak-47 and shoots up the post office ull certainly here about that but when somebody helps a little old lady cross the street or takes out a crippled persons garbage for them u never here about that. and what if we all are here for no other reason than to just be here? does it make us less of people if we dont cure a disease or solve poverty or is it simply good enough to be the best people we can be while we live this short time on earth. i think if ur nice to people, volunteer to do things occasionaly and even give the hobo u pass on the street a few extra dollars i think uve done more than enough of whats expected of u. and i think most people would agree to do this. yes ur neighboors are dooshbags. doesnt mean everybody is
     
  5. st3wy

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    That does make a lot of sense did you write that down when you were tripping?
     
  6. st3wy

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    thats true too
     
  7. st3wy

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    but who created the space for all this shit to go down? there has to be dimensions after our universe. maybe the past? the future? yourself in a differnt life?
     
  8. st3wy

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    you can't say trees necessarily have a "mind of their own" but you can say that there is a spirit that is held within them. wether the spirit evil or good is for you to experience. I almost thought about talking to this tree one time i was tripping. he looked like he wanted to have a conversation and was inviting, but then something happened and i was pulled away. was is it a trap? probably not i think i just got distracted with something else hahahahaha but anyways there are definitely something along the lines of spirits or life that is inside all living objects........ kinda like a soul?
     
  9. Geneity

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    Yeah plants may have souls or spirits.... especially trees. I've had a small chat with a pine tree while on a heavy dose of DXM once.

    No, I haven't tripped since like last year if you don't count DOC *shudders*.

    I have my own beliefs about the universe. I don;'t believe people are in inherently anything. It's mostly in the upbringing. Some will naturally be learning towards good or evil, but it's a balance.

    We don't merely exist to exist. We exist because we're a part of nature. A part of the balance. The is no 'greater purpose' or 'why are we here' question. We're here for the same reason any other animal or form of life is here, to be a part of the balance and a part of nature.
     
  10. Squilla

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    I'm not saying people are born with an instinct to kill, I'm saying that when confronted with the dead end question of "whats the meaning of life?" some find no answer so they use that as an excuse to do whatever they want, to kill whoever they want. By no means, if anyone I'd follow it would be the philosophy of John Locke, not Hobbes.

    I know stephen, The media definently influences our ability to tap into whats really going on on our planet, with constant wars and famine to some cat getting rescued. I just think it should be the primary objective of mankind to eliminate the useless humans out there that do nothing for our world. Giving money to a bum? Fuck that, I'll shoot a bum. The world is over populating and I'm suppose to give this jack hole money because he ruined his life? Nah, ain't going to happen. Thats not helping. Going into a prison and killing all the people that have killed someone for no real reason, thats helping.

    Its not about curing diseases, or poverity...well, kinda. I believe those that do not take their lives and run with it (kinda like jigsaw in Saw, people like that just simply need to die and suffer possibly too) should just be killed.

    I suppose the true message of this thread is to only make this world a true beauty, would be to destroy all those out there that fill our prison system, those out there in the middle eastern dessert with their fingers in their asses blowing each other up, and the constant up roar of individuals not really caring about this reality. Only then will this world unite together as one.

    Because if you look at it and ask yourself, whats the goal of mankind? You see no real answer. We keep mating and being fruitful (thanks jesus) and now we don't know why. Tensions between countries, over what? Power, money, religion. We keep polluting and polluting and corrupting...it never ends, until california sinks aswell as most of the coastal cities all across the world. THis world is in for a change, and the change needs to begin.
     
  11. st3wy

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    the goal of mand kind is expansion obviously
     
  12. Geneity

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    Without the ugly, there is no beauty. I majorly agree with your idea of eliminating useless people. But the definition of 'useless' would become a hot debate. All those welfare programs and shit exist pecause people are capable of sympathy and empathy. You'd need a board of experienced people to decide who should truly be eliminated and who could be reformed.

    I believe advancements in technology havbe allowed far too many people to live and have effectively eliminated natural selection. you don;t see obese animals or retarded ones, ones with serious illnesses, etc.
     
  13. st. stephen

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    hmm lets see here.... first off im gonna asume that u were born into at least a middle class family (plz correct me if im wrong) so why just because u had the fortune of being born more well off than a poor person make u any god dam better than them, and even if u were born black and poor than u more than any one else should no how hard it is. its not as easy as saying, o well golly gee being poor sure does stink, well say mom how bout u get a job and ill go to school and well solve this problem right up. these people live by being fucked by the system and now here u come saying that there not only useless, but should be killed? im sorry but i have a big fuck problem with that. ur answer seems to be solve bad by doing bad and to me thats the biggest hipocricy ive ever heard. its like saying end war by more war.

    no hard feeling or anything by what ive said this was ment to be a friendly exchange of opinions i just tend to be very sarcastic when it comes to debating people i dont agree with one of my worser traits
     
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    so in this perfect vision of mankinds future how do we decide which humans are useless even the retarded ones can be used for labor purposes. i thought we as a human race were supposed to be trying to enlighten ourselves and end suffering, trying to create a society that is truly founded on the freedom of individual choice while instilling a sense of responsibility in every individual to the world around them. i understand that you are unhappy with the present world we are sharing, i am also displeased but in no way will killing such a large amount of people make our world a better place. all human beings die at some point anyway why should we waste energy doing wat will inevitably happen. the flaw with your idea is that murder, rape, theft, etc. are a part of all human beings not a select few and it all stems ultimately from a lack of love, nobody pays it forward, we all are responsible for eachother and our own happiness. yes individuals allways feel overwelmed as if wat we do doesnt matter because the sands of time dissolve all and our inability to control our surroundings but the only way for us tochange the world is to stop being so damn selfish.
    i could go on and on and on and so off topic but i belive the ridiculousness of your genocidal ideas that youve posted shouldnt even be dignified with a response. it is people with this type of thinking that cause most of mankinds problems. violence begets violence killing in the end will only lead to more killing
     
  15. ~Infinite~

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    Thank you..atleast somebody knows what they are talking about..the thought that killing mass people is the answer??Wtf..are you hitler.. start loving others and it will repay you in the end..Love IS the answer..
     
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