W - political roadkill this debate is ridiculous! And I keep on seeing W as the monkey lookalikes life and love-- and a new admin
If their ideaology is anything new to you, go back into whatever cave you came from. I watched abut 45 mins of it, and then decided that jerking off would be more productive. We've heard it all before.
I wouldn't call it roadkill yet. You have to take into account that no one expects much from Bush and he did OK. So i mean we got what was expected. I doubt it'll make much difference anyway.
My favorite part was the first words out of Bush's mouth... "Uh... ummmm." Did anyone else notice that? I turned it off shortly after that ingenius reply.
Bush did terribly, and was obviously a bit intimidated by the end of the first couple of questions. But, on that same note Kerry contradicted himself 3 times. He's "against" operation enduring freedom in the beginning of the debate, and he's "for" the operation at the end of the debate. He said he simply believes that Bush chose the wrong way to go about it. He needs to clarify himself and stop being Jim and John Kerry, and start just being John Kerry. It's really disinfranchising to see a candidate you support contradict himself in such a way.
i thought the best was... "the war was a mistake." Mr Kerry, are our kids dying for a mistake? "Our kids are not dying for a mistake."
Yeah, but because of the Electoral college, and the way our electoral process is set-up, unfortunately, you'll never see a Nader win. You simply have to take the best of the worst. Nader, or any third party candidate, can't win in a winner-take-all system such as ours. We have a 2 party system, that's just the way it is. I believe that the popular vote should be the one vote to determine incumbency. There's no "protection" involved in the process of electoral delegation. But, that's just how it is, I suppose.
He's in a difficult position. I don't think too many people think we should pull out of Iraq immediately. As against the war as I am, even I have trouble with the thought of just up and leaving when we created such a mess. Going to war was a mistake, Bush's mistake, and now Kerry wants to try to repair some of the damages and get some stability in the area and then get out. If he were to say the soldiers died for nothing, that would sound too cold and unfeeling and unpatriotic I think. It's just like when you are discussing the war with someone who supports it and they say "Well, aren't you glad Saddam is captured? Don't you think Saddam was bad?". Yes. and Yes. But that doesn't mean it was worth going to war.
I think that a lot of the confusion comes from the old classic "fallacy of equivocation." This can occur when a certain word or phrase is used, but not used with the same meaning, when there's an implication that the meaning remains consistent. War, to Kerry, is something you do after great deliberation, for morally-justified reasons absent an ulterior motive, with overwhelming public support after open discussion of accurate and complete information, with support of allies if obtainable, in the most humane manner possible, and in a manner conducive to clear victory ("victory" itself should be defined as well, but I'm trying to keep this simple for any Repugnicans that might wander in here). Sometimes "war" is justified, Kerry suggests, but "war" to him assumes all that is covered. I mean, what kind of moron would proceed without all of that, at a minimum, being very thoroughly covered? Look no further than the White House, where their concept of "war" is something completely at odds with Kerry's, and profane beyond words.
He is not a monkey, only a tragic puppet. The strong economic forces interests is to support the most possible stupid leader, so they can use him as a puppet. I dont think Bush knows what's going on around him; he's a pendant to Jeltsin, just holier! But, yes, he really looks a bit like a monkey. I have always thought that he looks like a classical crook in Batman... when his pale and serious, almost ghost-like face tone on at my TV-screen, with a stiff and serious mouth, with narrow lips and empty eyes. Then he start to blather about "terrorists", "good and evil", and "axis of evil" as usual. Then my associations always goes to Dracula.
