Getting ready for my first Salvia Trip

But Im unsure on what potency I should get. I want to be safe about it, but I also want to trip, so I want to know if I should smoke the leaves found here: http://www.azarius.net/smartshop/psychedelics/salvia_divinorum/salvia_divinorum/

Or if I should just order the 5x extract. I have plenty of experience in psychedelics.

 

Uh, just to let you know, there is hardly anything one can do to even somewhat predict the outcome of a salvia trip. Just remember that it ends within 5 minutes.

I would drink a little, so you would be at ease. Or smoke weed.
It doesn't matter how experienced you are with psychedelics, salvia is another class, actually an opiate, thats what I was told by someone very very well versed in hallucinogenic drugs.

Buy the extract, but get at least 20x.

 

looooooool salvia is definately not an opiate. who ever told u this is an IDIOT! opiates are opium, morphine, codeine, heroin, oxycodone etc... now tell me how the fuck salvia is an opiate. opiates are euphoric sedatives extracted from the opium poppy. anyways get the strongest shit u can get, if u wanna trip on salvia then do it the right way, go all out. just make sure all the doors and windows are closed, all joints and cigarettes are out. sit on ur bed or couch take a DEEP hit or two from ur pipe. hold it inside and place the pipe somwhere far from u. Enjoy, no matter how bad the trips is it only lasts for 1-5 minutes, not a biggie.

 

salvia isnt a opiate it attaches to a opiate receptor <-- not 100% sure on this if im wrong just correct me

 

First off, I say get 20X. I started with 20X and I still do 20X. Nothing scary comes out of it.

Another thing, don't do it around people that will freak out !!ESPECIALLY TEENAGE GIRLS THAT EXPECT IT TO BE AN 'AWESOME HIGH'!!!!!!! Just make sure you do have someone around that will just watch you, not say anything and leave you alone, but will hold you down if you start to do something harmful (VERY unlikely, but still be on the safe side) It really ruins it if you have someone freaking out while you are tripping. The one time I did do Salvia in front of some teenage girls, it was a huge mistake. See, when you do Salvia, the only way for it to be good is to completely disconnect from the world around you and just let it take you away. When all you hear is "OMG is he ok duuuuude what's he doing omg guys whats going on is he ok omg omg omg" you halfway disconnect so you are sitting there tripping but you can't let it take you away because everyone is freaking out. Honestly, when that happened to me, the trip wasn't "bad", but I could hear them the whole time and it honestly made me quite mad for a while after my trip. Seriously, just do it with one other person who won't let their presence be known.

Another thing is, don't go into it thinking you'll get "high." It isn't like that. The first time you do Salvia you probably won't be expecting what will happen and it won't be too good, and it might freak you out a little, but just do it again. The second+ time you know what to expect and by the 3rd or 4th time you'll learn to just let your body go plus you'll be more relaxed and it will be one of the most amazing experiences you will ever experience.

Good luck with Salvia, I hope you like it man!

(sorry if I went off topic, I just want you to have a great time)

 

I would recommend starting with the 5x. Get a feeling for the threshold effects of the experience by smoking it a few times over a month, then (if you feel like it) graduate to x10, then maybe higher.

Some young people treat salvia divinorum like beer: "Yo dude, I had like 18 beer last night and didn't puke!" = "I can do like half a gram of 80x and still not pass out!"

There was a time when I could relate to that mentality, but I think I was too young to be using psychoactive drugs back then.

Again, I suggest that you approach the experience as an adult. Try the 5x, then graduate if you want a more intense trip.

Peacelove,
Aldousage

 

I understand that I shouldnt be using salvia just to get fucked up. I feel like tripping is a journey into your mind, and I believe my past experiences have molded my mind, if that makes any sense. I've had some pretty intense trips and one out of body experience on my last DXM trip. It was amazing.

I'll take your advice and do the 5x, it seems like the wisest choice to me. Thank you

 

Id say 10X to 20X, in my expirience the first time smoking will proble not work well, you definatly wont trip, and might not even feel anything. Dont take more than 3 hits, because its just a waste. IT should only take about 1/10th of a gram of 20X to really mess you up. I would try it 1 day, take 2-3 hits. Then try it agian the next day. It should happen for you the 2nd time. Salvia has a reverse tolorance, so the more you do it, the better you trip.

It took me 3 tries for Sally to work, and 2 hits of 1/10th of a G of 20X messed up me and my friend. Histerical laughing and drooling on ourselfs...

 

dont use 5X, its almost useless

use 15X or 20X, anything more or less is too much/little.

use bong if you can, and a very hot butane torch lighter to fully vaporize ALL plant compounds.

remember to offer thanks to the lady of the plant as well, as you will quickly learn that SHE has complete control of YOUR trip.

 

Hmm, well the popular opinion seems to be to take the higher dosage. At the same time many people say that you dont even trip the first time, and I dont want to just shovel out the money for 20x salvia if it's not even going to work the first time. Not to mention all the bad trip reports. Im confident enough in my tripping ability to try the 15 or the 20x though. Ill buy the 15x then, hahah it seems I cant make up my mind.

Thanks for your input everyone. Keep it coming if anyone has anything else to say.

 

my first time doing salvia i completley disconeted from what's "real" or "normal"; got the full effect of it. that being said, i also hit 80x out of a PH(x) trinity...so that might have had something to do with it.

 

PH(x) trinity? <_<

 

it's a bong

 

Jesus, that's the coolest bong Ive ever seen in my life. Makes me wish I hadnt just bought a vaporizer

 

maybe not an actual opiate but yea, like gsmall said, it's the only drug that messes with the beta opiate receptors not the alpha which the other ones like h, oc, and m go to.

The known active constituent is a trans-neoclerodane diterpenoid known as Salvinorin A, chemical formula C23H28O8.[21] It is present in the dried plant at about 0.2%.[22] Unlike other known opioid-receptor ligands, salvinorin A is not an alkaloid—it does not contain a basic nitrogen atom.[23]

When considered by mass alone, salvinorin A is the most potent naturally occurring psychoactive compound known.[24] It is active at doses as low as 200 µg.[14][21][24] Research has shown that salvinorin A is a potent and selective κ-Opioid (kappa-Opioid) receptor agonist.[25][21] It has been reported that the effects of salvinorin A in mice are blocked by κ-Opioid receptor antagonists.[26] This makes it unlikely that another mechanism contributes independently to the compound’s effects. Salvinorin A is unique in that it is the only naturally occurring substance known to induce a visionary state via this mode of action. Salvinorin A has no actions at the 5-HT2A serotonin receptor, the principal molecular target responsible for the actions of ‘classic’ hallucinogens, such as mescaline and LSD.[26]

Salvinorin’s potency should not be confused with toxicity. Rodents chronically exposed to dosages many times greater than those to which humans are exposed did not show signs of organ damage.[27]

Many other terpenoids have been isolated from Salvia divinorum, including other salvinorins and related compounds named divinatorins and salvinicins. None of these compounds has shown significant (sub-micromolar) affinity at the κ-Opioid receptor, and there is no evidence that they contribute to the plant’s psychoactivity.[28][29]

wikipedia ftw.

 

I just friggin saw that thing too, I was like 'oh damn thats hot'.

 

Salvia is a nasty drug. It's just wrong. I don't get people who recommend it.. 'take a ride with Sally D'. I'd rather take a fucking ride on a floating door to Poland in all honesty. When you're accustomed to REAL trips that excell a tiny period of time, you kind of wake up to the fact that Salvia IS a waste of your cash and doesn't make you feel safe in the place it puts you. There's no euphoria factor.. except for maybe the 'after glow' you tend to get - but that's probably the relief of a functioning mind returning.
What a sketchy wreck of a substance this is.

 

Is this an opinion, or is it just me???

I personally love Salvia, there's nothing like laughing histerically and not being able to stop it.

 

What do you mean by real trips? Salvia is god, stop getting your panties in a bundle and leave the big toys to the big boys.

 

haha