wanna buy land, need feedback and friends

hi! i am new to this forum, so pardon me if i don't really know what i'm doing.

i am in arizona right now, trying to get money together to go back home to ohio, i want to buy some land, with quite a bit of acreage to start a sustainable living commune. i have some connections with people who know how to build, straw bale and whatnot, and some general info on sustainable living. what i'm really looking for are people who are interested in being a part of it, and advice from those who are already doing it.
the goal is to eventualy have a small 'village' where families and individuals can come to live off the grid. i want to build a communal cabin, where people can live until we aquire the materials and funds to build each their own home. everyone would work together to build and plant gardens, idealy being able to live off the food we grow, and food bought from co-opps, selling veggies and crafts to pay for necessities and building supplies. the land would not belong to the person or people who pay for it, but all who live on it, and all decisions concerning the whole would be decided by everyone.
i'm not sure how to go about getting the money to do it, or the people to do it with.
i have been concidering doing something for under-privelaged kids, non-profit style, to get them involved, building, learning life skills, and teaching them that they do have opptions in their lives. i have a friend who teaches these kinds of kids, and he thinks we could get government funding to do something like that.
any and all feedback is welcome, is this an overly utopian idea? is it possible?

 

When I was in western Ohio near Sugarcreek I noticed that apple trees grew plentifully in the fencerows, something I haven't seen much of elsewhere, so I think that area could be a good location for agriculture altho while I was there (20 years ago abouts) I thought the land was less expensive further south on the Ohio river.

I bought cheep dairy-calfs at the cow auction and bottle fed them thru the winter then ran them back thru the auction. Didn't make much money but had plenty of beef.

 

This doesn't work I think because a bunch of inexperienced people can out-vote a few hardened veterans.

 

the idea isn't to vote, it's to sit and talk until everyone agrees, or agrees to disagree and come to a solution, even if it takes weeks. nobody should feel like their opinion wasn't taken into account.

 

For the sake of the argument I don't think this differs from buying a small parcel in a large collective where state and local codes govern all aspects of your lives.

Some communities restrict your choice of colors in painting your house or in how high the flowers in your yard can be.

 

ya , you do need some good glue to make your dream possible . helping kids is a good enough ok . i always believe to make a dream happen , well , you just assemble all the parts of it and start doing it at whatever the scale - just so the heart is there and active .

owning land or any such thing as that is not the heart's necessity . playing with kids in a blissgarden is more like it . would children love to come to your garden ? they do know and love a glimmering real utopia . yaya , i've recently invented a nature language game for kids and have been travelling about the country trying it out . works great and especially so in blissgardens - um - rainbow gatherings - where the children cry out why can't we stay here forever ....

maybe it'll work out i can take this game into production . it would support a community so fine and sensibly . if you'ld like to review the game then let me know so i can make you one and send it along ... or see you at a gathering where at least for a bit the land and heart's are free .

mikul

 

Buy land in Nor Cal near San Francisco would be the best. I'll hella help you out if you do. Arizona is too hot for me, lol.

 

ohio, homie. it's gonna be in ohio, prolly central.

 

tikoo, i would love to check out your game!

 

I went to Ohio last year for some work related training and was really impressed with how fertile and green everything was. I think it would be an awesome place to make a go of it. The humidy kind of hit me though.

 

yes . i need to get a mailing address . my e-mail is teo_mikulzqm@hotmail.com

it may take a couple of weeks ... you'll get a game !

 

Struggle and Dreams

Your vision is oh-so-much like mine! Land owned in common, community house until personal spaces can be built. Self-sustainability, raising kids together, community businesses providing abundance. We were on the Rainbow Trail for years with this vision until last year it ripened and we picked it from the tree of life and bought 90 acres in Nor Cal.

We do indeed council and council and council until we have complete consensus, and no one's voice is unheard, no one is a dissatisfied minority. We've built a 32 foot yurt as our first community space. Gardens are going in slowly but surely, albeit not fast enough. So much to do just go get ready for this coming, our second winter on the land. Still Rainbowland, though we'll see what policies we manage to consense on. We are on the side of a hill, so it's a bit challenging and a few of our tribe don't want to be there, but we're like 20 now, plus like eight kids and babies.

It's a wonderful and amazing vision and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's a lot of fucking work, too! Consensus means compromise.

Welcome Home!
Love and Light!
Joshua

 

thank you! it is so good to hear that people are actually doing what i want to do! have you read 'the 5th sacred thing' by starhawk? it is part of my inspiration for change.
how did you find people to do it with? just rainbows? have you had trouble with people not contributing, or being scetchy? i am nervous about inviting people i don't know to come live with me. how do you pay for your land?