Einstein refutes the existence of God

as superstition.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080513/world/britain_religion_science_jews_einstein

wow...though I didn't need a physicist to tell me religion is superstition, I figured it was common knowledge.

 

Einstein didn't refute God. He disagreed with the traditional definition of what God was.

I'm an Einstein fan. What few books I have left, several are on the man himself. I've never gotten the impression he was an atheist.

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Einstein himself said he wasn't an atheist. His beliefs are probably closer to Pantheism/Deism. Also, a lot of Einstein's beliefs are similar to Baruch Spinoza's.

 

Hey Memo,

I'm from a little town not far from you.


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I thought Einstein was the one who said God does not shoot dice???

 

Anyone claiming Atheism in 1901 Germany might as well hang themselves in town square. I'm sure he was well aware of the social suicide if not literal suicide a complete denunciation of God would have brought in his time. In most of the world we live in many people still need to at least fake a belief in popular religion for social, political and employment standings. The letter this thread is referring to was written much later in the 50's when Einstein was living in America, a slightly safer time and place to speak freely.

 

Nikalaus
Agree
He was talking about QMechanics untill qmechanics admitted there was no dice. Logic holds true [even if tattered 'observer/collapse] in q theory.
supeposition. The cat in the box exists in all possible states.. for all possible states exist.
The details.

Occam.

 

relaxx

Discusting isnt it? There are miilions who believe 'what you believe'
actually hs any bearing on skill [at a job]
A Position in a society run by arseholes. [beauracrats]

In 2008 you STILL get 'looks' from interviwers when you answer their question.
'religion'.. i have none. [second hand from friends .. i dont apply for jobs.
Im independent.]
It seems if you dont have religion.. you are less than human...
[ie if you dont believe what we believe you cant be controlled]

And worth as described by societies 'worthy'. The turds like Bush and the neocons [in the estados unidos]

Occam

 

Coincidentally, the Pacific Northwest is where I'm wanting to move to.

 

Isn't it kind of dangerous to make guesses about what one's beliefs might be based on social factors? I mean, it seems kinda like saying that anyone could have been an atheist at the turn of the century, and so that anyone
was.

 

Yeah, your country pretty much needs to drag itself out of the dark ages.

 

Im from australia... the 53rd or is 54th?, state of the US.

Occam

 

memo.. yeh.. up the coast about 2/300 k's south of alaskan boarder...
The last wilderness but for siberia.

 

I'm from England. No-one gives a shit what religion you are here as long as you're not a Scientologist or a Muslim.

 

LOL

In australia it's mormons or 7th day..
Sometimes a creationist will appear on the doorstep.
They are always a load of laughs.

Occam

 

People moan about religious folk who show up on your door. I don't. I just treat them the same way as I do salesmen; tell them you've already got one, or if they insist they can save you money, tell them you have too much money already. "I'm like, so frickin' holy, I actually kinda want to be less holy so God doesn't think I'm a suckup."

 

Control
I think he was saying that one had to appear, to believe such.
For example
How many germans fervently stated hitler and nazism were good for germany and themselves when face to face with
ss/sd/gestapo elements.?
All, as would you.
Or you die..

it seems you have never known true fear of the system.

occam

 

control

they are FUN...
they say
"i want to tell you about jesus" oh i say
"come in for a cup of tea and tell me what the little scamp has been up to"

occam

 

I gave blood that one time. Wouldn't have died, but I still had to lie to do it.

Meh. My point is simply that uncertainty doesn't prove anything. He may have lied about being an atheist/Christian/whatever. He may also have told the truth. We can't assume that he lied just because it's possible. I don't know that Einstein would've thought God was that important - he was a scientist, after all, but I've yet to meet a scientist who actually discounts the possibility of a creator or whatever outright.

 

I have read much of his non scientific literature.
[also his scientific.. lets talk dilation]
He is consistant to others in that he wavers from discust to firm
comment.
Like us all, he can hate the idea of direction when people die in torment.
Yet can see it in the shape of a leaf.
his
"the only infinite is the universe and human stupidity,
and i'm not to sure about the universe"
is still a standard in human epistemology.

Think on this.. direction is not a hand of god..
it is the guy who set the dial for life on universe #42
20 billion years ago.

Occam