I realized why I never visit here anymore

I haven't dosed since november. I can't relate to anything you say. Im starting to think that the whole psychedelic experience is just crap if it indeed can fade away this quickly. what I thought was so profound and life-altering has become washed-out and faded, the details of which I can barely even remember.

Im starting to think that the drugs really aren't worth anything at all. Im probably dosing friday, so you might all see the old me again, but who knows. Im staring to think that the drugs give you so much fake things to think about, you lose focus of what is real. or maybe I have it backwards.

 

i imagine it's more like once you've actually experienced something so profound and special...it's hard to go back to a life devoid of that experience or window to a higher form of consciousness. but you may be right..i say instinct is very important to follow..and generally if you have to ask..it's probly true. but i certainly don't mean to speak for you so no offense! : )

 

It's a simple equation Joshua. Your ego has not been defeared. Need more work. LSD or sober work on your Self not Joshua the boy who took acid before. Work on your connection to God and you will never lose the magic

 

By the way that statement I just made only relates to yours about what you experienced on acid being fake. Of course this forum is mixed, you have your people that only trip a few times a year, people who treat LSD as if it were a holy sacrament, people who have worse ego's than before they dropped, people who are cool and down to Earth and so on. Certain times I stop posting here because of inevitable personality crashes, but continue viewing in order to moderate. But it's up to you to decide what is real and what is illusion Josh, in fact it's up to all of us and you can only know through experience. Just keep learning and living and loving and it will fall into place eventually.

 

we're all forgetful, neodude. it's similar to growing out of your childhood and the memories of it naturally fade as we go about our normal ego-duties and you see your childhood as primitive, uncertain or illusory, and you've moved past it as an adult. But the beautiful simplicity of childhood can be reinstated and one is reminded of its purity and absence of mental clutter. Same thing with the psychedelics I suppose. There's no limit to how many times we can undergo re-birthing, and there's no ultimate end to any of it. I suspect that you're just going through another cycle, which is all we ever do.

 

If you are dosing this friday...this mindset certainly could end up problematic for you.

 

I agree on some degree. For me it just created some alternative object in my life that I chased thinking it was bringing me some sort of greater meaning; thus ultimately distracting me from my main line activities.. Shit, I was always an enlightened down to earth individual with a good personality and sense of humor. When I did acid my first times, it honestly didn't change much about me at all; I was already a very happy person with a free conscious and open mind. Doing drugs ultimately made me miserable, anxious, and guilty. I almost feel opinionless now. I'm not happier.

 

I don’t think the drug is marketed with the slogan “it will make you happier”.

Its not unlikely that this feeling of not having an opinion is a result of having too many questions/answers and not knowing what is right, which is a big difference between not knowing at all and is usually easily mistaken. Acid tends to show us things that we couldn’t see, rarely creating something out of thin air – though I may be wrong.

What other things was it distracting you from that has made you so un-savvy to the idea of it not having a positive effect.

 

agreed. i never forget.

 

Blasphemer....troll... the heck with you neodude1212....



Just kidding with you... good luck to you my man.

Drugs, Sex and Rock and Roll are just gimmicks and you can experience life without all three..

 

I also had similar periods in my life. Untill I sorted out my life to be exactly like I like it to be. You see, when psychedelics become only part of your life, you start wondering after some time where does that lead you. Than you stop, and your life is not that interesting, you lose interest in everything and you start worring. But, if you transfer that hapiness from drugs into your normal day to day life, and live by your rules what is right and what is wrong, then it really doesn't matter if you take some acid or not, you ARE happy. Only then you can see benefits from drugs, then they give you more interesting things that you can transfer in day to day life. Then you stopped abusing drugs, then you are using them, and thats the whole point of drugs. They should be tool to learn to injoy life more, not to be the only thing in your life that makes you happy. You know how acid works, if you are not happy without it, you won't be happy with it. Just work on improving your life's quolity, don't be bothered if you did or didn't take drugs. Like Relayer said, meditate on God, anything that makes your mind happy, and then even if you don't take drugs, you will find so many interesting things to debate on this forum. This forum is far from beeing only for acid users!
Anyway, love you man!

 

Well, lately I've been trying to remain in an objective state of mind. It's kind of interesting to do if you can pull it off. kinda hard. but anyways, you end up realizing, "who the hell am I"?

Why do we think we are the next big thing to happen to this world? Why do we think we are better than any one else? It's the ego. The ego is why. But if we take away our ego, what do we have left? That's what I'm trying to figure out I guess. You could say "your real self", but that doesn't really work for me anymore. It's almost like I've become TOO objective and just dont care about anything anymore.

I can't discern what is real and what is just fantasy. What is the truth and what is the lie. It's kind of hard to care about anything when you dont know what to care about, and why it's more worthy of care than anything else.

 

Know the feeling. At some stage I also believed that it's all crap and whole spirituality/ God thing is nothing more than tripped out thing. I started to believe that I was just fooling my self with all those ideas. The belief sistem was really shaken and I had to choose what I'm believing in. The feeling was strong but the mind was restless.

It's the process that never stops. You must find something that you will do in between psychedelics. Yoga, meditation, riding bike, playing soccer, walking in nature, I don't know whatever gets that connection back for you. You must constantly feed yourself. That way you keep it from fading. After some time you will learn not to forget and you will start to easily recognize it in life situations even without psychedelics. There is no such a thing as coincidence.

I can't anymore connect it to a drug. It's more state of mind. Do you really believe that we are all fools here? And not just us here on these forums look how many people out there believe in that love. Come back to that feeling.

It's ignorant to say that we never fall. All of us have fallen many times. We are humans we tend to forget. But when a friend offers you a hand, take it, it's there for reason, it comes from love. I needed to learn that on hard way, going thru a difficult situation, closing myself from everyone, you really don't have to. Sometimes in order to feel one you need others.

Remember everything you learnt from psychedelics is there in life also. It's not all magical and mystical as the drugs may show you but it's there and very simple. Sometimes we just don't see it. Friends can help or life will bring you a situation just to refresh your memory.

 

You are nothing and everything at the same time. Why do you think that you are better than anyone else? We are all the same full of bulshit, problems, craziness, confused, happy/unhappy, excentric, introverted, caring, loving,........you name it. You haven't found your realself yet and it's not up to me or anyone else to tell you what it is as it doesn't really matter that much what we gonna tell you until you find it and experience it for yourself.

What is left when ego is not there? There is a good excersise I think I learnt a year ago on the Art of Living course. Take time for yourself and finish the sentence " I am......" over and over again until you have no more answers.

 

take a break from it for a long time.

then when you feel the need to trip

eat some san pedro.

that's not my suggestion,
I uh
heard some guy on the radio
say it

 

Being that you are a Christian Joshua, Im going to speak in Christian terms in how I see the whole shebang.
You have two choices, and that's to listen to two voices in your head. One is your ego, the other is the Holy Spirit.
The ego is based in fear, it thrives and indeed need's fear, as part of your cooperation, in order to exist.
The Holy Spirit is the opposite of fear, it is Love, and it will lead you to God if you learn to quite your mind to a state of peace and allow that voice to come through.
As long as you have doubt, fear, anger, seperative consciousness, etc. you are continusiouly listening to your ego and feeding it with it's nutritional diet of destruction, seperation, self accomplishment for material gain, and so on.
It doesnt matter what here is real and not real, the lofty thinking should be left to the poet's and those who sing praises to God. What matters it to teach, to share, and to learn Love. By teaching, you learn, by learning, you teach. The Holy Spirit is the Om, it is the light of creation, it is the guiding voice that will lead you directly back to God. Ego on the other hand, will keep pushing you away from God because it's very existance (which is an illusion) depends upon how well you give into it's every whim and they are all rooted in fear. The ego can not protect you from anything.
Here's the catch though. God is not jealous, God is not vengeful, God will not punish you for your sins. Only you, by way of feeling guilt (fear of repremandation in whatever form), can punish yourself. God does not do anything but allow eternity to exist while you, yourself, wait to go back to Him. He is not waiting, He knows when your coming, it's you who is forcing yourself to wait by not listening to His messangers entirely but rather to your false sense of self.
This is not coming from me as if I am better than you or even that I am on a higher connection to God, this is what has revealed itself as reality to me, using Christian terms to help make it sense to you, during deep meditation/prayer practices and through listening to many teachers in many different forms.
Chose for yourself which voice you are going to listen to Josh, just remember which one is reality and which one is bringing you down everyday. You make your own choice to be happy.
God bless friend

 

FUCK your connection to god... just try to live again, caffeine helps me do that.. I'm normally crazy but not hyper and all around (and caffeine lets me be that way, with the hyperness), and now that I am on caffeine I'm having the best time of my life.. find a drug that works for you (if you want to do drugs) and one that fits your personality.. maybe psychedelics aren't for you, but next time you dose.. don't think about what you just took.. think about the current, what you want to do now (such as where you want to go, etc. .. dont think about the trip that you're waiting to happen), let it hit you and it'll be a lot better .. I've only done acid once so I'm not very experienced, BUT in my opinion that's probably the best way of doing it

 

yeah. lsd will trip you for a long time. its just psychological trip fuck in the brain.

just like speed will leave psychological problems, or some other drug. acid has its own effects. and being the one that has the most impact on the brain your putting yourself thro one hell of a fucking ride for a long long time.

you take acid and search for somthing but never get there. i want to quote fear n loathing, about the 'end of the tunnel bit'. eager acid freaks that thought they could buy peace and understanding for 3 bucks a hit and so on.
its just a trip inside your mind.

 

I'd just like to say that though Thompson was the man, he is not the final answer on what LSD's purpose is. So he and millions of people failed in their attempt to find peace, anothe several million benefitted from it in ways that are as of yet unparalleled.
Everyone is different, for some people a 'psychological trip fuck in the brain' is just what they need to get rewired and change the pattern of the brain's growth pattern towards the light.
For other's, it reveals their own fears which they allow to consume them, and ssince we're quoting books, I'll through this one out there from Frank Herbert's Dune
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Namaste

 

well there is alot of ways to live a life. alot of things to do. alot of things to think.
can one thing be done in many ways with the same outcome.

well if our brains had to figure out reality ourselves, ( " i mean our mums couoldnt connect to our brains and tell us directly what reality is") and our brains are so expanse and intelligent, the differing amounts of ways to come to one ultimate conclusion or decision, from a path that is divided almost infinatly from anothers path of thoughts is umm big. but i mean this and that and everything is all well and good. because whether im writing this or your writing that, whats the differnce. maybe its a differnt way to coming to one conclusion. tho i guess there are lots of conclusions. i really cant concentrate enough to write this well. oh well.