think i got some bromo dragonfly

He wasnt the one who synthesized bromo dragonfly though.

 

Are you suggesting that my whole life is doing drugs?
My friend I have wife and kid, beautifull family and very responsible job. I can tell you that if I make a fuckup that the company is loosing millions daily.
So please don't tell me how I am just a grumpy old hippy who's life is only psychedelics.

All I was trying to say is, since you don't know your sources well and you can't trust them, if the thing like this happens, all you can do is to enjoy it, otherwise you end up injured like De stoned fryball. If he tried to relax and let the energy flow naturaly, he wouldn't end up like that, but he tried on various ways to stop the trip and he just "arrested" energy in certain parts of his body and now have problems in those same parts. All I was trying to do is to help him relax and go with the ride as that is the only thing you can actully do, all other things can only upset you more and put you on a even worse ride than you are already expiriencing. But, since some people need to learn from their own mistakes, ignore my post and live your normal life beside psychedelics and think that they are just drugs that get you high.

Anyway, I wish you all the best, not just you, to everybody!

 

I dont think you really needed to even give him the satisfaction of a reply. The comments were obviously dumb.

Also as upsetting as the trip was i tried to keep the flow going, it is after the trip ended that i have had problems. I dont think it is energy being stuck rather than a sick research chemicals degrading effects on health. Im still kind of trembly and have a minor headache. I still flow along though, trying to relax all the time. Still i believe it is the chemical more than my minds reaction to the chemical.

 

Thak you for understanding what I was trying to do. All I want to tell you is that everything will be ok, and keep positive thinking. I had more than once unwanted results of various drugs, but it always go away. Just eat properly, rest and sleep as much as you can, and you will see, in few days you will be like new.

 

DE stoned,, Youll be ok, If you were really worried you would have went to a hospital, Which in some cases is the worst thing you can do, and in some cases its the only thing to do. The chance you have permenant damage is highly unlikely, The brain does rewire itself but dont expect to be superman now you got over it, and have the ideas later on that you can do it again, Cause your brain can only rewire itself so much during certain periods of time. this is the same effect the robo trippers experience and its wearing you out. But think of how it has advanced you. Your thinking has completely changed, You now see that these chemicals are not TOYS that we/you can just play with. See how it played with you. I had a trip on a unnamed substance once that I clutched under a table and almost nawed the knuckel off of my index finger, It was horrifying. I had the rocking back and forth, unable to control body temperture days after still shivering. babbling and babbling.. A few days it took to recover. But the information and the experience I recieved through that trip hasnt ever been topped, even with the same substance again. So you should try to focus on what that trip was really all about. Was it about trusting people or is it deeper than that... Like I said in my last post on this thread. I tripped for two weeks straight maybe even longer. That dont make me superman or Yoda, That makes me a idiot to throw back a whole sheet of blotter because I could handle it. That I did, but it still sucked waking up tripping thinking your still sleeping dreaming and had to figure out if I was still asleep. Talk about weird..

 

Thanks alot for the post orison. It was much much deeper than just not being able to trust my friends for reliable lsd, that was actually more of an afterthought.

Really i feel a bit better today even though i still have a minor headache. I predict my headache will be gone tommorow(hopefully)
During some of the time it felt like my brain was frying. Though what it really showed me was how everything ive ever wanted to see in my entire life, is right in front of me. How im not appreciative enough of the excellent life i have. How i take everything for granted including my sanity. It brings tears to my eyes just thinking of it. It was a really intense experience. and you better believe it has changed my outlook for the rest of my life. Which when i dropped it, i wasnt expecting.

 

I have had trips like that, whatever was in it really screwed up my body for a few days, but I was ok, that was back in the day when everyone thought that LSD contained rat poison, and It sure felt like it did. Probably one of the most fucked up trips I can remember, we were running around this lake at about 2 am in the winter and it was about 5 degrees out with no coats on, I nearly got lost in the woods, my buddy was about ready to jump in the lake. I remember getting home and the colors and weird shapes would not stop and my body felt like shit, i think everyone had a bad trip that night.

Eat well, sleep a lot, and exerscise, the natural things that detox the body will do the best for you.

A good pain killer may not be a bad idea, like a vicodin or perkoset, if nothing else will make you sleep hard for a night. I also remember taking a zanac which really makes you sleep hard for about 12 hours or so and you wake up in a state of bliss.

 

i know this post is really old but i only just joined and was searching for info on Bromo - DragonFLY.
I done it a few months ago, and it blew my mind. I loved it.
Ive been a tripper ever since.
First time on Acid tomorrow.
x

 

its a research chemical which means no one is quite sure what it does to u or if its good or bad for u....its anyones guess. sowho the fuck are u to say its harmless....i know people who have fuckin shot dope over 300 times and they quit the habit and are fine now,but that sure as hell doesnt mean its harmless....ur one of the most ignorant posters on this forum

 

yea man, when i took 10 hits i honestly don't know if it was real acid or not. it lasted over 24 hrs, but when i took 4 hits after that it only lasted around 12 and i slept. but the visuals were way cooler than on almost any other acid ive done. usually the "clean" acid doesn't give me the visuals i like but feels good, and the ok acid gives me bomb visuals if i take enough if it but i'll feel speedier.

 

I wasn gonna post in this but since u guys keep bumpin it.. id hardly call that poster the most ignorant posters on the forum. He was just pointing out that shulgin(or other chemists similar) who masterminded the craft of so many different research chemicals can still live fine.

Also due to bromo dragonfly's minute dosage requirement i think it would be tough to find some chemical in such a small dosage that could cause problems in the human body years afterword. Therefore i declare it safe, but i will never use it again. or any psychedelics for that matter.

I still have some bad hppd from this trip. psychonauts: tread carefully.

 

well to bad whatever u declare isnt an actual fact. its anyones guess,and since he said "dont associate the word research chemical with brain damage" lead me to only infer that he truly believes its harmless when infact u can OD and DIE if u take to much of these (ive come to what i believe was pretty fuckin close with 2c-i) when i snorted 40 mg of it...im not saying u cant live fine after doing it a shit load of times,i didnt even imply that. i just said dont be so quick to say that it wont cause brain damage(not in those exact words) and he is in fact pretty ignorant ive read a whole bunch of his post's in the past,and if he replys to even try to tell me other wise about these chemicals then im not even gonna reply back because ive said what i had to say and made my point. there is no reason for me to post in this thread anymore.

 

Nothing like playing russian roulette with your neuro-chemistry to have a good time haha.

I do not trust anything that does not have a significant amount of testing and research behind it. LSD has been around and is well known enough that I pretty much know what its effects and side effects are going to be, but with something like DOC its a total shot in the dark. That being said, I think I have taken it even though this was nearly 10 years ago, i felt exacty the way you describe. Of course, I tripped just about every chance I could get back then so my experience and recovery could have been effected by how frequently I was dropping, I certainly know a lot more about it now than I did back then.

The HPPD does go away at least for the most part, it will significantly decrease in intensity over the next several weeks.

I personally don't think its a good idea to do any psych. more than once a year/ every 6 months.

 

I'm a big fan of single dosing.

Low Dose is the way to go.

And making sure what you have.