LSH Synthesis from Morning Glories

--Edit to last post--

Why I am trying it again is because last time I only tried to convert it for 30 - 45 minutes. I'm going to try 24 hours now. In the fridge, overnight, peppermint oil, vinegar the whole shibam. We'll see how the conversion goes.

 

GIVE IT YOU BEST GO hehehehehehehe?

 

hey,lsdmike,why are you saying that this conversion is not possible?I've seen a lot of discussion about it on various boards and they all said it could be done,can you please elaborate on why it is chemicaly imposible to do so?Like maybe a mechanism for the reaction?

Also could it be that maybe out of the many substances from the seeds and the peppermint oil some other pair reacts to form something active?

 

ok...this is an old thread...note to self:remember to check dates...

 

Now I agree this whole LSH thing is mythical. I have yet to try this. Theory. untested.except by a few. Im against this whole stripping your seeds with naptha or lighter fluid which is naptha. I bought some and you guys are more then welcome to it. Im sure your guys seen my bullshit post on the damn thing. ITs in research. Im waiting till the mother in law goes home before I start trippin. so its on hold. Now of course you guys heard about 30 min only soaks in lemon juice and resuable only coffee filter straining. Now this is interesting and still needs further testing but is worthy. Now I tried 10 HBWRS in 1+oz of vodka 40 proof. This crossed my mind in the aceytl conversion. It is converted ethanol in the body. I read some more but wont get techi since i cant remember details. This particular piece of information led me to believe that LSH conversion was a myth but still needed to be tested. well working with making a keepable LSA tincure in vodka. Led to the discovery of not only that a 30 min bath in your coffee grinded seed powder with 1+oz of vodka shot. Washed with a bit of juice and strained through the resuable only coffee filter. Led to an incredible day with nature. Pure and clean! No Nasuea! Powerful, peaceful, best day of my life type feelings. ecstacy type feelings. would like to try with wife to see if any barrier breakdowns. Thoughts of not doing the E I have with her but to share this seed magic. I considered on my drive home from my adventure that possible the vodka soak was somehow more powerful then the lemon juice solution. So as of now we know that we can make a keepable LSA tincure using a 30 min only soak in vodka and strained through a resuable only coffee filter. the measurements go like so. 100 HBWRS = 25 hits on the compareable to lsd ratio you see on clearlight. 20 ml = 20 drops of liquid. Its like 30ml = 1oz of liquid. You might lose 5ml in your soak. so you should be left with 25ml of tincture of HBWRS LSA. With the equivilant of 25 hits of the lsa/lsd ratio. 25ml = 25 drops / 25 hits of LSA. If the peppermint oil conversion is a mythical LSH. We still have single dropable LSA which the vodka may actually give it the conversion were looking for. The mythical LSH. Now we need someone who can do labwork for us with this discovery. The ethanol in the vodka may do the trick. when i reach this stage of my research with the myth conversion I will better be able to clarify. But we might be on to bullshit. We will never be able to get the LSD. but whats so bad about the LSA once you evolve past seed eating and use simple organic alchemy. There is truley magic in these seeds. They are becoming my ally of choice next to our beloved Sativa.

 

it doesn't appear that the peptide moiety (or other junk) is cleaved, perhaps it could be built up but this is not very likely with the reagents mentioned.

What are you trying to convert with acetate, or acetaldehyde derived from mint oil or alcohol? a-prior starting product would need to be isolated, cleaned up, lots of ls_ chemistry is full of nasty, albeit natural toxins. So do not neglect that although the chemicals may be dangerous, the starting substance also has some toxicity. At this point it sounds like a crude extract with a sprinkle of peppermint oil for flavor/digestion. If there is more to it, or if this preparation brings forth a good effect please enlighten. thanks

 

now i dont really understand these processes
i have 300 grade A mg seeds
i wanna do this:
grind the seeds to make a powder
add lemon juice to the powder then add peppermint oil
leave it over night

would this make lsh?

if it really works.. do i have to take all the potion at once? (because 300 seeds would trip me) or the lsh is way more potent than lsa and i need to take less.

thx

 

I thought we established that this doesn't work

and can i just add that i was the first one to say this was bullcrap

*Thank you very much Mike!

Anytime i was glad to help you guy's out.

 

so is it possible to over dose on this stuff?

 

You'd certainly puke before you OD'd.

 

Good to know

 

A few more questions 1 is this mild enough to
use for a first trip? 2 would the LSA be
ruined if I heat the mixture to get a higher
LSA yield? 3 Can the LSA be extracted from
the morning glory plant or are the seeds the
only part worth the effort.

 

There is LSA in the morning glory itself, but you should blend it up and preform an extraction on it. I know there's enough for a few trips in it. Morning Glories can get huuuge. Though I've never seen anything about extracting from the plant itself. So just use the seed extractions on a couple big ol MG plants.

 

YES

 

Geneity, I found my first few experiences with hbwr were basically just crummy. But then I did an extraction and consumed 7's worth (half of a 14 seed extraction) and it started off as a typical crummy sorta thing.. but then broke some threshold and became one of the best trips ever.
Have you tried many doses?

 

I've never done HBWR, but I've done MG's many times.

I know exactly what you mean by it being hit or miss. Sometimes you'll dose and just get sick and tired and feel miserable. But sometimes you'll dose and have a great trip. Sometimes nothing happens at all. They're strange.

I have tried many doses.

 

MG's are the only thing I have any means of getting hold of so I ask again are they mild enough to be used for my first high?

 

15g mild enough yes

 

They can be mild, or as heavy as a GOOD acid trip (minus visuals). It's all dependent on dose. Try 200 seeds for your first time. The acid dose is like 800.

 

Ive found quite the same thing with HBWR the first few times i did an extraction and didnt feel much at all so i decided from there ill just grind up the seeds and eat them that way. This has had better results for me although the stomach cramps can be unbelivably horrible some times (usually on an empty stomach) The last time i had a light meal a hour before i ingested the seeds and i felt no negative effects & had a beautiful trip, also some NOS made my trip so much more visual and crazy! Overall i guess these seeds can be very hit and miss