Can you extract DMT from Psilocybin Mushrooms?

I've never seen or read about this type of extraction but I really wonder whether it is possible to extract DMT from psilocybin mushrooms or the chemical psilocybin itself. The chemical psilocybin is;
4-Phosphoryloxy-N,N-dimethyl-tryptamine

So I wonder whether the -N-N-DMT (DMT itself) part of the psilocybin can be removed from this chemical within the mushroom. Not sure how difficult it would be though.

Anyone here heard anything about extracting DMT from psilocybin mushrooms?

 

This is understandably just a hypothetical question, but why in the hell would you want to do this? If you want DMT, find the bark and roots and vines and boil up some Ayahuasca and trip. If you have mushrooms, make some tea and trip.

 

psilocybin yes, dmt no. psilocybe mushrooms typically have serotonin, psilocin, psilocybin, and baeocystin

 

You could extract 4-HO-DMT (psilocin) or 4-HO-DMT phosphate ester (psilocybin) and use those as precursors, but N,N-DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are in so many plants that there's no point in it.

 

i'm agreeing with everyone up there ^^^ there's no point in trying. dmt grows in your backyard if you know what your looking for. but, you can extract the psilocin, which is what psilocybin is turned into in your body, with cranberry juice. i don't know if it works for psilocybin or not, but, i do know it works for psilocin

 

Yeah, usually the psilocin that you extract turns into psilocybin. But the extraction pulls both out of the mushrooms. It's just a methanol wash in a hot water bath for a few hours.

 

Yeah this is more of a hypothetical question, I assume you would have to be a very experienced chemist like Shulgin to be able to extract DMT from shrooms. Why I asked is that when the day comes I makey my little pot and shrooms farm I would love to be able to extract it from one of these things I am growing since then I'll have almost everything I need .

Is that really true about the serotonin? That's pretty awesome if so; since you won't have to worry about loosing any serotonin you might of lost (though classic psychedelics are pretty easy on the serotonin system anyways).

 

i dont see how one could metabolize serotonin and use it in the brain again

 

well, you could allways dry & powder your shroomies and soak in everclear squeeze mush & evaporate for pure psilocybin. then u could make little breath mint "manna" bottles =)

 

yes it's true. shrooms (like chocolate) have serotonin, but it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier very well. however, mushrooms are serotoninergic (they enhance serotonin transmission at the receptor sites)

 

seriously, this again?

find the thread about some retard trying to get lsd from shrooms. the reply is the same: IT WONT WORK, OR ISNT WORTH IT

 

I do believe you, but do you have a documentation article I can read? I know shrooms have baeocystin and other chemicals but I never knew serotonin. This can explain why mushrooms tolerence takes 5-7 days as oppose to acid which takes 3-5 days. The serotonin acts on recepters blocking synaspes temporarily.

BTW, I heard chocolate stimulates cannabinoid recepters, so I wonder whether weed has serotonin in it too. Even though it acts on a different system.

I do not see the relation, lsd is chemically less similar to acid than the chemical in shrooms which is 4-Phosphoryloxy-N,N-dimethyl-tryptamine. See it has that n-n-dmt in there. So this isn't as "retarded" of a question as you think.

 

fine, so they are more similar. that doesnt mean you can just snap of the phosphoroloxy molecule simple as that.

you would need chemical agents that would be powerful enough to break the molecules bond, and replace it with the necessary hydrogen.

plus, you would have to find the meathods of deriving pure psilocybin, unless you planned to smoke solid mushroom as part of the final hypothetical product.

so to repeat just part of my last post: IT WONT WORK, OR ISNT WORTH IT.

even if you did it, it would probably be more time consuming, and possibly more costly (depending on how much drug is in a mushroom) then locating a dmt dealer or doing one of the many dmt extractions of mimosa and whatnot that are widely available.

 

i may have been mistaken, it looks like serotonin may be exclusive to panaeolus species: http://www.shroomery.org/8697/Stijve-T-1992-Psilocin-psilocybin-serotonin-and-urea-in-Panaeolus-cyanescens-from-various-origin

psilocybes have psilocybin, psilocin, and some have baeocystin, and norbaeocystin.

regarding chocolate: http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/webprojects2001/millward/introduction.htm

you may be thinking of endogenous anandamide, which chocolate and cannabis stimulate. they also act on beta endorphins

 

more then half the shit that is alive has DMT i'm not totally sure but i think everything has certain amounts

 

Why would you try and get LSD from Shrooms that sounds strait retarded

 

ergoline compounds aren't present in psilocybin mushrooms, tryptamines are.

 

Actually, it is pretty retarded. And if you're gonna get technical, know what you're talking about. It's 4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine for psilocin and 4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine phosphate ester for psilocybin. No phosphorous prefix and no nitrogen.

 

psilocybin is 4-Phosphoryloxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, and psilocin is 4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine. google it, maybe there's more than one chemical name but, thats what they are dude, google them.
and anyway, why would you want to extract normal dmt from them when you got yourself an orally active form already in the mushroom. and if your gunna be "farming them" just eat a grip of them and trip out hard for a lot longer time than dmt, and you'll be able to interpret the trip better to integrate the meaning into your life.

 

No you can't.