Anyone can make LSD with under $1000

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People have had DEA agents knock at the door after ordering from sciencelab. be fucking careful and fuck sciencelab!!

 

Serious?? Ohh shit and i was about to order from them! lol

 

dellysid could you possibly pm me the original text
i had read it and was going to save it, but now it's gone...

 

plzz pm me the original text aswell....thankyou

 

Interesting. But has it been tested? Reminded me of DEET and it is such an incredibly tiny amount of starting material.

 

the forum won't let me read my pm's...it says i don't have admin privilages lol wtf

 

You would have set yourself up for some serious legal trouble. Whatever you are getting your secret acid recipe from is bunk, btw. Nobodys going to make LSD for under $1000 unless they are given priviledges to somebody / some places lab. Don't believe everything a website tells you, especially if they are encouraging selling products for or which may used for the production of LSD. Even if some of the equipment is legit, the synthesis certainly isn't. I guess you overlooked magnetic stirring and lights which indicate when to move on. Not to mention it's not a process totally man-handled, more like machine with days of work.

The synthesis of LSD is published and available any time on the internet. You do not need to use any shady websites. If you do not understand what these available synthesis's mean, then you aren't well knowledged enough in chemistry to even try.

If there was some secret underground method that was under $1000 bucks that was user-friendly, do you think maybe that one of the other 100,000 members at this psychedelic website would have figured it out by now? Especially if it was being advertised on a website? I think so. You have not stumbled on some huge secret, trust me. It consists of a lot more than two fancy pieces of equipment that connect together through a tube bro. Here's one real approach though that is fairly common and well published from TIHKAL.

 

The synthesis for LSD is not difficult if you have a background in chemistry. However the problem is that most of the precursors, mainly lysergic acid and ET are not readily available. The synthesis for lysergic acid is also fairly straight forward w/ the 4-bromoindole method. The main problem is the ET as buying it is... suspiscious.

 

could always try to culture the stuff, but I suspect it's a real bitch. isomerization of the ergotamine is bound to happen somewhere in the process, if you don't know what you're doing... and once that happens, it's worthless.

 

the synthesis IS difficult because your dealing with unstable compounds, even hoffman was told if he wanted to work with ergot alkaloids

"Professor Stoll granted my request, with some misgivings: "I must warn you of the difficulties you face in working with ergot alkaloids. These are-exceedingly sensitive, easily decomposed substances, less stable than any of the compounds you have investigated in the cardiac glycoside field. But you are welcome to try."

 

The difference between Hoffman and say me or another chemist in 2008 is that Hoffman was working with no real idea of how to proceed. He was forging new grounds through educated trial and error.

However, that is not necessary at present. To synthesize this compound there are extremely detailed notes from other, perhaps smarter, chemists that one could follow. Discovering a way to synthesize LSD if you only have guesses on how to go about it -- difficult, but this synthesis is not.

But, it is easier to make a number of other more profitable illicit substances which likely explains why there is not that much LSD around anymore.

Slightly unrelated but I can't remember on which thread but someone was saying that they could produce some and someone else responded sarcastically: 'Good luck getting the 5 kilograms of ET.' kilograms? How many million doses of the compound were you going to make? Although 5grams of it is as difficult to get as 5kg so it doesn't really matter.

 

hoffman knew exactly what he was doing LSD-25 was the 25th chemical to be made, he just discovered along the way that he had created an extremly potent yet unstable hallucinogen instead of a cure for migranes. regardless of which time period the chemist is from they will have to know there way around a lab, know how to work in different light conditions, extreme precision, the list goes on and on when it comes to making LSD.

one can look at it as someone could right a whole book on the synthesis with exact steps, but with this particular chemicals unstability the chemist will need to know what to do in case the synthesis should go wrong ending in bad accidents, lost precursors, inactive final yeilds, unintended dosing, ect, ect..

i can remember reading somewhere that even the great owsley started off making a batch or two of inactive black crystal and giving it out at festivals ending in people getting convulsions and such. i have friends who dabble in legal chemistry one with more then 10 years of organic chem amongst other things under his belt and hes explained the synthesis out too me somewhat and its more then quite involved, nothing out of the ordinary for some but still quite involved. its not the synthesis thats hard its the precise knowledge of everything your using thats needed in the end which is normally only gathered after a few years of chem courses, not always of course.

when i first got into taking acid i asked my friends if they could rewrite the synthesis down so that i could perform the steps. they informed me this would nearly be impossible due to lack of precursors, equipment needed, funds to purchase any of this, understanding of lab procedure and familiarity with detailed lab synthesis and finally the will to go through all of that the have some common pusher cut your quality L up to blotters with barely any acid on them and have the people suffer. really respect to all the LSD chemists out there cause i sure as hell couldnt ever do it.

i think even 100 years down the track any chemist still wont just be able to write the synthesis out and have the common person perform it,who knows..

im sure most of the people who can get 5 grams of ET would be able to get 5 kilograms if they want, not that everyone would need it. some of the people with massive black market hookups would have an unlimited supply of ET with the right person and a decent sized budget.

 

"i think even 100 years down the track any chemist still wont just be able to write the synthesis out and have the common person perform it,who knows"
Finaly a good post

 

The proper knowledge of making it is priceless. some random joe with 100,000 couldn't make it, unless he paid the right person to.

 

and another problem: how do you get that inert atmosphere for the first step? It would like require an intert gas chamber with argon or helium or something... and the precursors ofcourse.

 

nitrogen.

preventing the lysergic acid from isomerizing is by far the trickiest part.

 

check it out:

http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/psychedelicchemistry/chapter7.html

 

By far your post was right on and well thought out. I think LSD is being over rated.
While i would agree that any amount oeg f ET may go undetected for the right price. By using different methods each time, you get different results. I dont think the up and coming chemist want a beeeees' really know how busy this shit is. it isnt a part time jobs you can quit after a few hours. or get bored with. its not a train set.What your doing is effecting life. And the most respect should be given to it.

The black crystal you mentioned, was Owsleys attempt or another of the group to make lSD without a background in chemistry/ Using ergot fungus as the base and just adding diethylamide hci, Most likely people suffered ergot poisoning and im not 100%
sure but this is a common misconception that these two compounds combine and make LSD.

 

what would be wrong with stopping after the first part and using the hydrate instead of the diethalmide? wouldnt it still work just not as potent? from what i read the first part is just a base/acid extraction right? so technically isnt that the freebase?

and as for ET, if u managed to find some ergot and cultured it....