Chlorobutanol - Obtaining the materials

Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by Geneity, May 5, 2008.

  1. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    Yeah, pretty self explainitory title. LSAMIKE's post sparked my curiosity in Chlorobutanol. And so I reserached it a little and found the synthesis on Erowid. Also, it's seems like something I can do with my non-existant amount of lab equipment and chemistry intrests the fuck out of me.

    I need to know where to find Chloroform and Potassium Hydroxide. I head Sodium Hydroxide can be subbed for KOH. Acetone is not hard to find.

    I saw Orison said Cloroform can be found at a hobby store. That would be fantasic.

    The best I can think of to find NaOH is a grocery store, looking for powder drain cleaners. Maybe home depot. What about a pool supply store?
     
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    to obtain Chloroform you have to know It can be used to bond pieces of acrylic glass which is also known under the trade name 'Perspex'.
    I found a link for you to understand what the hobbiest talk about..
    Also there are different types of Chloroform's. The original chloroform isnt marketed since its folktale follows its name "Knocking out/Rape Rag" ect.. But that is just a myth, Thought the chemical itself will do that, It takes a few deep inhaled breaths of it to lose consciousness, Marketed chloroforms today are in the electical parts cleaners sold commercially. Low grade chloroforms are in auto parts cleaners in general auto parts stores.. Purchase of 100% pure Chloroform over 1 liter have to be signed for. Like Pure Grain Alcohol does in my state. 18fluid oz. bottles of Pure Chloroform can be found on some hobby site ? but I dont know where.
    Chloroform is non flammable, I also know of some wicked electric tricks that can be done cause its Non Conductivity. But they involve stun guns.. lol

    http://www.sareefkeeping.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-3861.html
     
  3. WhiteFoot

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    Red Devil Lye is pure NaOH. ive seen somewere on the net on makin your own chloroform but i think its distilled.
     
  4. kudosdc

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    There is only one Chloroform. I think the stuff you will see in hobby stores are other types of chlorinated hydrocarbons like Carbon Tetrachloride or Methylene Chloride. Chloroform is CHCl3 and can be made by reacting a certain ketone with bleach - a reaction that every first year organic chem student knows as the Haloform Reaction. Look it up.
     
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    Tennessee Tenn. Code Ann. �39-17-422, Would be good to know why theres a law governing the sales of Pure Chloroform, While your correct that those hobby shop Adhesives are likely other Chlorinated solvents... Cholroform itself isnt illegal to
    obtaine.. I mean I guess it is if your up to illegal things and Dont want to register buying it..
    Only because its used in organic chemistry, Hell we might as well make Coleman fuel illegal next. And last but not least look how simple it is to make, some bleaching powder and ketone.
    Chlorodifluoromethane is hard to get to these days without signing some papers.. Fucking Gestapo!!
     
  6. kudosdc

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    You definately want to use a dilute hypochlorite solution like bleach, and no stronger. The reaction is VERY exothermic. starting with two gallons of chilled bleach, the appropriate amount of ketone will quickly raise the temp 20-25c in less than 2 minutes.

    Stunning calculaton: 8 litres = 8,000 ml *25c = 200,000 cal / 2 mins = 6975 Watts.

    Make sure you have a bucket of ice handy in case it starts to runaway
     
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    You need to do a LOT more reading, mate.

    That said, here it is:

    http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/chloroform.html

    Don't try this if you don't completely understand that chloroform is FLAMMABLE and TOXIC, and if you inhale the fumes you could pass out and die.

    Ok? So be careful, young padawan! Go to a book store and get an organic chem text. Get The Idiot's Guide to Organic Chem or, Organic Chem for Dummies. READ them and get a lab techniques book at a college bookstore. READ it. Hell even get a HS level chem set and go through all of the experiments that are inside it so you have some idea how this all works!

    THEN try this out. Otherwise, you're risking a lot.
     
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    * Flammability

    The National Fire Protection Association has assigned a flammability rating of 0 (no fire hazard) to chloroform.
    1. Flash point: Not applicable.

    2. Autoignition temperature: Not applicable.

    3. Flammable limits in air: Not applicable.

    Manufacturing chloroform is a FIRE HAZARD.
     

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