The Assassination of John Lennon

The idea that the murder was devised by MKULTRA seems a little farfetched. Could someone explain how they could be related, because I just don't see it. Besides the fact that Lennon may have been perceived as a "threat".

Also, I thought that Chapman eventually chose to plead guilty, which was why he was never found legally insane.

The whole Catcher in the Rye thing makes sense to me. He obviously studied the book, and he idolized the main character. I think he just wanted to execute the ideas that were in the book, about killing the "phonies", protecting the children. he just took it all seriously. With that said, I don't believe there was any gov. involvement. I think that Chapman was just your average wacko.

 

Lenon was a major threat. To say the government wanted him dead does not seem farfetched at all.

John Lennon was NOT a phony. The plot of Catcher is not what we're discussing. What we're saying is Catcher could have been the trigger that set off the MKULTRA programing.

Remember, the man who had access to this program and had the most to gain was Bush, (im not saying he did do it, but would it surprise anyone if he did)

 

I'm not saying the fact that the gov. may want him dead is farfetched. I said that the idea that MKULTRA had DEVISED the plan is farfetched.

Also, I did not personally calling him a phony. i was explaining the reason why chapman may have killed him.

Thanks for misinterpreting what I said. I thought we were just giving our opinions, anyway.

 

John was killed by the US government, which is one of the many reasons i'll never trust them... along with the fact that a plant is illegal, but mass genocide is not.

 

Yes, of course he was.

 

Just so you know, it is notoriously difficult to find someone legally insane. "Insanity" is a legal term, not a psychological one. It is very difficult to prove so that murderers don't get off scot free with just a little help from their lawyers "proving" they were "insane".

Just for the record, this is not an indication of anything. He could have still been bat-shit-fucking-looney, just not so seperated from reality that he didn't realise that the person he just shot was real, and named John Lennon.

Other than that, you got yourself a conspiracy theory

 

It seems that in the modern day wisdom and politics which used to be whole, have become complete opposites. Everyone who carries the right, the divine message is wiped out. But then again were they ever whole? I think maybe someone like King Solomon could qualify under them being whole.

 

Lennon was a part of the culture industry. The Beatles were the single largest mass media brainwashing operation ever. Or do you think their popularity was a coincidence? The others basically played the game, but Lennon was never content with it. He had basically figured out the game with the media, as well as a lot of what was going on in society. He was dangerous simply because he was in a position which you can only get into by being placed there, but he was no longer playing by the rules. He had been granted a great deal of influence, which he was beginning to use against those who gave it to him. Clearly they could not allow him to stick around. He could easily have spilled the beans on a lot of the culture creation that goes on, because he was at the height of it, on the inside. So he was gotten rid of. Plain and simple.

 

Wow, this is eerie, i was just reading about this literally moments before i read this thread. (its for a gay power point project in school)

 

John's death wasn't simply a crazy little man killing a Beatle... it was far bigger. john was a threat, a very real and scary threat to the administration and they had to get rid of him somehow... he fought and got his green card, stayed in the US, and continued to speak out, and there was only one way to shut him up...

 

definitely

the man who attempted to assassinate Reagan was also found with Catcher in the Rye.

I don't why you'd want to kill Ronald though, it seems to me he always complied with his controllers, but then again, there's a lot of shit that goes on backstage.

Lennon was killed for being too close to the truth, just like Cobain, Tupac, Hendrix, Morrison, Brian Jones, etc.