I'm covered in fur...I look like a chia pet, and I can assure you, that unless I've been thrown under a moving bus, my fur is neither gory, nor bloody. That being said, I do appreciate your bravery for stating your stance. I respectfully disagree that the wearing of fur is intrinsically loathsome. Are there better alternatives? Perhaps, but...bringing into question the question of fur brings into question the wearing of leather. Should the things that are taken NOT be used? Should these things not be taken responsibly, or should they be left to rot? As one of my friends summed up the question...'If we freed all the cattle...where would they go? What would they do?' Consider the fur bearing animals...what is their place in the ecosystem? Take mink...in their wild state, they behave much like weasels, killing chickens, ground dwelling birds, small rodents, and other creatures. Rabbits are prey for wolves, coyotes, bobcats, hawks, and owls (at the very least). Do I believe the fur trade to be cruelly practiced? Yes. Absolutely. Do I believe that fur itself is evil? No. Not if the animals are treated humanely and given a life without undue pain or suffering, given the opportunity to have the freedom to move, to mate, to enjoy sun and wind, same as the rest of us. Because of the way the gods made me, I have no choice but to either wear fur, or to shave constantly (which consumes resources in the way of razors). I however, have no need to BUY fur, or support the fur trade as it is practiced.
haha, i stopped reading the guy above me's post right about here "animals are treated humanely and given a life without undue pain or suffering, given the opportunity to have the freedom to move, to mate, to enjoy sun and wind, same as the rest of us."
And evidently you missed the 'NOT if the animals are treated humanely' which was part of the statement....That would be me saying 'in theory, I do not believe fur is any more evil than any predation on any other animal BY any other animal on the planet.' You also, if you stopped there, failed to read the LAST statement of my post 'I however, have no need to BUY fur, or support the fur trade as it is practiced.' But I suppose, from reading your posting, that capitalization, proper English, and the intellectual capacity to finish reading a simple, short opinion, would be beyond you. Please don't troll, as this is the second posting of mine that you've critiqued. However if you have an intelligent and reasonable set of counterarguments to 'I do not support the fur trade as it is practiced, because it is neither humane nor cruelty free' then I'd like to hear it. Just as I'd like to hear, on the other thread, something slightly more thought out than the comment that you are vegan, and that 'some of us see the difference in eating a moving animal and a plant, and those who do not.' (paraphrased) Perhaps something addressing how, being unable to ingest wheat, barley, rye and legumes (including peanuts and soy) what someone is supposed to live on? If you've something to add, then please, add it...if not, please don't wave around a little self-righteous flag, assuming that you are more valid or more valuable than anyone else here. I respect your right to neither wear fur, nor eat meat, but those of us that do don't deserve your pretension or your attitude that you're better than the rest. You're vegan? You're anti fur? Good for you. Here's your validating pat on the head. Good boy. Now go play, and be content that you're making 'such' a difference.
I don't wear fur... its one thing to eat meat... thats food for survival. But skinning animals alive for the sake of a pretty coat? That's disgusting.
BNP I agree with you, that animals shouldn't be farmed FOR fur, however, if the animal is going to be eaten anyway, then it'd be wasteful to not use the fur/leather.
Fur is really unnecessary nowadays because we have clothing of some sort, but whenever the Native Americans killed for skins & furs, they needed it because there wasn't a walmart downtown for them to go to. That's the only time it was alright to hunt for fur. & they usually ate the animals they skinned.
i agree... if they're gonna be killed and eaten anyway, might as well use the fur. That should be the only kind of fur allowed, if any.
Most fur animals fox, small mink, rabbits ect are good at surviving. In Colorado when the fur industry went broke lots of foxes were let lose and survived and now there is a lot of cool exotic foxes around. Well my point is if you ever have a chance to let some free they will probably be very happy and do just fine in the wild. Razing animals for fur is creepy.. set them free..
i'd rather wear the fur my grandma gave me that she previsouly owned than shell out money for threads made by exploited factory workers.
I hate fur and what makes it worse is that at one of the mall out here there's a fur store and everytime I pass it I wanna cry. Have you ever seen videos on Chinese fur farms? It's horrible.
Fur,leather,suede Ect IS FUCKIN DISGUSTING!!! Its completely unnecessary Animals do suffer and why should they suffer for your stupid fashion statements and physical insecurity Thats my oppinion....
Wow, and I think you're really pretty 'insecure' and 'stupid' to so virulently judge a differing opinion. However, I'm going to say this...'what's your solution?' how is it - financially viable ecologically sound (turning all these cute fur bearers loose that're unable to fend for themselves in an environmental niche where they'll displace native species isn't ecologically sound, despite the bambi factor of it) doesn't cost people livelihoods (are you going to pay for these people to take other jobs?) are you aware, that these animals released, have to go 'somewhere'. Where will they go? It's the same attitude that people have for their refuse 'let's put it 'away' from us, and give it no more thought' Let's say a breeding population of otherwise furbearing rabbits was released. Would you adopt all of them? a breeding population of 2 rabbits can grow to over a hundred in less than 5 years. Suppose we now released over five thousand rabbits, of breeding age, into the public lands? can you imagine the ecological damage? can you imagine the agricultural damage? what happens when these bunnies breed enough to resort to your garden for food...or the farms that produce your vegetables? how about the predator population explosion....are you willing to put up with more coyotes, owls, wolves, and wildcats (just to name a few) because suddenly they have a much larger food source? How about when humans start getting attacked, because the population increase causes them to compete for territory and pushes them out into suburbia? no, unfortunately, and disagree with it as I do, these creatures live to be fur. Do I agree with the methods? absolutely not, but then again, if I were consulted, mass farming of animals wouldn't be happening for a great many reasons. I have a further question - how many of you that're complaining about fur are dismissing the fact that (some of you) eat meat? What're we to do with the skins? Invariably, people will eat meat. Should we do the animal some respect by using what's left, or simply discard it to rot? If we turned out all the animals that're farmed for meat, for fur, what would you guys eat? they'd need the land for their own grazing and eating rights. As I said, if you have a solution, please, by all means, step forward. However, if your solution is 'no one eat meat' or 'no one buy fur or leather' you're going to have problems from the start, because even if you succeed....you fail.
What I said was MY OPPINION and I have ever right to say what I want just as everyone else does. I respect what everyone says just like I think I should be respected for what I say. If you think its stupid and insecure of me to not want to wear animal skin and fur thats your oppinion and thats cool w/e I believe what I believe ... You believe what you believe I think its stupid that people wear animal skin and fur when there are so many alternatives out there. Honestly I am not in the mood to answer anything else Iam way to stressed and exausted with my own situations right now I just did want you thinking I was blowing you off or anything Maybe I will save your questions for a rainy day Like I said before personally I think animal skin and fur should stay on animals not humans THATS MY OPPINION Peace<3
I agree 100% with 25 years too late. There are always going to be people who are so disconnected with the real world that they can take an idealogical stance and say all fur is bad for whatever reason and there is no justifiable reason to ever use any animal product. But people will always eat meat and the fur/hide of a lot of the meat animals makes a nice piece of clothing/useful apparatus (belt, saddle, boot, glove) I disagree with farms that produce animals solely for fur and discard/waste the carcass but I have a feeling most fur farms make some use of the meat they spend money on feed to raise, weather it is to feed to a pig or eat as long as the whole animal is being used I do not understand the objection to fur. It is likely that the posters who hate fur are here because their ancestors used fur as a means to not succumb to the elements.
